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Old 04-29-2010, 05:00 PM   #26
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Unless you can prove otherwise, those harmless TV shows you mentioned are exactly that: harmless.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:46 PM   #27
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"You see it's not just Harry Potter, but it's Bewitched, and I Dream of Jeannie... and other such "that's not so bad" entry ways into the occult."

Oh come now, are you serious? Harry Potter, Bewitched do you really think those things could have a negative impact on people? It is nothing but sheer fantasy. That is one slippery slope you must be on to try and make an argument like that. What's next? Are you going to call ouija boards evil, despite the fact they are made by Parker Brothers?
Bewitched is nothing like the real occult. Harry Potter is, however. That is why Harry Potter is evil. I've even heard some witches dissaprove of Harry Potter because they think children they are too young to get involved with the occult. Sadly, witches seem to care more about our children than we do.
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Bewitched is nothing like the real occult. Harry Potter is, however. That is why Harry Potter is evil. I've even heard some witches dissaprove of Harry Potter because they think children they are too young to get involved with the occult. Sadly, witches seem to care more about our children than we do.
And how exactly is Harry Potter like the "real Occult"? Are you even qualified to decide what something like the "real Occult" entails. Do you even know, off the top of your head what Occult means?
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Satan has always, historically, presented himself as an angel of light. When demons talk to you through tools of the occult like Ouija Boards or digital recorders, they invariably start off as funny guys doing cool tricks--often revealing secret knowledge about people in the room. It's their modus operandi and has been for thousands of years.
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I did have an encounter with a demon using a Ouija Board. It was real. I'm sorry if you don't believe it, but you weren't there. It happened in front of witnesses, IR. You believe you are the ultimate authority in life based on your personal opinion--no authority whatsoever, but God says you are not .
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I'm a paranormal investigator. I deal with ghosts.

(...) We've even encountered ghosts who've come back to warn loved ones about possible dangers.
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Digital recorders are the new Ouija Board. People ask a demon a question and then hit the record button. You may not hear an answer to the question at the time it's asked in the room but later, when the recording is played back, an answer can often be heard. It's on digital recorders that reliable sources have documented demons telling humans they want to possess them.
If you can demonstrate any of this in a controlled setting, you can win $1m.

Think of what you could do for your 'ministry' with those funds!
At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the "applicant" becomes a "claimant."
Wonder why no one has yet won the challenge?
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:58 AM   #30
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If you can demonstrate any of this in a controlled setting, you can win $1m.

Think of what you could do for your 'ministry' with those funds!
At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the "applicant" becomes a "claimant."
Wonder why no one has yet won the challenge?
quite intersting asdf.
I too would be interested in seeing this challenge taken...
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ME Too!!!
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