For a Select Few Who Will Find It Funny...

[Sir]

Our Anti-LDS friend BrianH decided to create a thread devoted to theorizing why he thinks Mormons are clinically and psychologically screwed up. He even points to specific posters as "evidence".

Our resident friend Apologette (Catherin Aurelia at CARM) asked if having multiple user names is a sign of this psychological problem, to which BrianH affirmed was his point.

So when I posted this response to Apologette/ Catherine's question about multiple user names:


It might, Athanasius...er, I mean, Catherine.......

and there was CARMella that you used after you were banned at MD&D under a different name, just so you could take a few more parting shots.

....I was, as you would rightly guess, hit with this:


Dear Apollos,

You have received an infraction at Christian Discussion Forums | CARM Christian Forums | Christian Chat.

Reason: Rule 12: Insulted Other Member(s). Attacking users. Rule 25: Freedom of Speech: Freedom of speech here comes with the responsibility to speak decently within the parameters of the rules.By registering you are agreeing not to be vulgar, divisive,insulting,profane, etc. (read all the rules). It helps to try and treat others as you want to be treated. Send alerts, do not attempt to moderate posters (Luke 6:31)
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Rule 12: Insulted Other Member(s). Attacking users.
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This infraction is worth 5 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.php?p=4972066



Originally Posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

Would this problem extend to the usage of "multiple personality" iden***ies on CARM?

It might, Athanasius...er, I mean, Catherine.......

and there was CARMella that you used after you were banned at MD&D under a different name, just so you could take a few more parting shots. All the best,

Christian Discussion Forums | CARM Christian Forums | Christian Chat

Yep! It's attacking a user to point out that they, too, have had multiple names on a board. But it ISN'T attacking a user to create a whole thread devoted to calling specific users clinically and psychologically damaged.

It got better though!

Apologette/ Catherine (after whining to the mods per usual), wrote this:


So, Sir........I mean, Apollos............agrees that it's fine to use multiple names on CARM? How about taking personal information gathered on social media sites and posting it on CARM? Do you, Sir, I mean, Apollos justify that type of cyber stalking as well? And by the way, I changed from Athanasius to Catherine Aurelia when the old board switched to the new board - and the Administration was aware of that. As far as "Carmella" goes............what a bunch of total wusses, that's all I can say. There's no rule that one has to use the same name on all boards, is there? When I post on WM I don't use the same name that I use here. As far as MDD goes, I don't post over on that sacred Mormon site anyway - Mormon Discussion is a lot more mature with Mormons who are far more willing to be up front and who are actually able to use critical thinking skills than either here or on MDD.

I wrote a reply to each of her points/ criticisms, to clear up her erroneous accusations. But the mods at CARM deleted my entire post.

And when I simply stated that it was unfortunate that Catherine's charges were deemed to go unanswered because the mods deleted my response, I got this:


Dear Apollos,

You have received an infraction at Christian Discussion Forums | CARM Christian Forums | Christian Chat.

Reason: Rule 2: Rule 5: Grievance violation, Comments or questions to or about Admin/Moderator Actions on Forums, Chat, Email, Pm, Alerts, posting grievances to or about management/moderators on forums, chat, visitor messages, alerts may result in immediate Suspension, Contact carmdiane@yahoo.com with questions
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Rule 2: Rule 5: Grievance violation, Comments or questions to or about Admin/Moderator Actions on Forums, Chat, Email, Pm, Alerts, posting grievances to or about management/moderators on forums, chat, visitor messages, alerts may result in immediate Suspension, Contact carmdiane@yahoo.com with questions
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This infraction is worth 10 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.php?p=4972796



Originally Posted by Catherine Aurelia View Post

So, Sir........I mean, Apollos............agrees that it's fine to use multiple names on CARM? How about taking personal information gathered on social media sites and posting it on CARM? Do you, Sir, I mean, Apollos justify that type of cyber stalking as well? And by the way, I changed from Athanasius to Catherine Aurelia when the old board switched to the new board - and the Administration was aware of that. As far as "Carmella" goes............what a bunch of total wusses, that's all I can say. There's no rule that one has to use the same name on all boards, is there? When I post on WM I don't use the same name that I use here. As far as MDD goes, I don't post over on that sacred Mormon site anyway - Mormon Discussion is a lot more mature with Mormons who are far more willing to be up front and who are actually able to use critical thinking skills than either here or on MDD.

For the record, I responded to each point in Catherine's post to clarify and give context, but that was removed. It is sad that the conversation got censored as context and clarification were given to the charges made, but so it is.

All the best,
Christian Discussion Forums | CARM Christian Forums | Christian Chat

LOL......ahhhhh, the insecurities and hiding behind a cloak of biased rule-enforcement and indiscriminant censoring.

Oh....and of course the only reply Apologette/ Catherine could muster was "This message is hidden because Apollos is on your ignore list". It is sad that she has to lie like that all the time. But such is the state of her faith and her witness of Christ.

[Sir]

I fully expect Apologette/ Catherine to run back to CARM and write on her cohorts' visitor messages about how horrible I am, and rally all her buddies to report anything I write in order to ban me, since that is her MO.

Oh, and Catherine/ Apologette, while you complained that I was cyber-stalking you, it isn't stalking when you write that you are 68 years old on a public board where the public has access. Silly goose. If you don't want people to know your "private information", don't put it in the public domain, silly!

[James Banta]

I fully expect Apologette/ Catherine to run back to CARM and write on her cohorts' visitor messages about how horrible I am, and rally all her buddies to report anything I write in order to ban me, since that is her MO.

Oh, and Catherine/ Apologette, while you complained that I was cyber-stalking you, it isn't stalking when you write that you are 68 years old on a public board where the public has access. Silly goose. If you don't want people to know your "private information", don't put it in the public domain, silly!

Sir we are all horrible when we compare ourselves to the standard of righteousness.. We are commanded to be perfect as the Father in heaven is perfect. Through our disobedience we are prove ourselves as unworthy..

I am sorry you have decided to go to war with other posters. I don't believe you are too fond of me.. I try hard not to allow personalities to get in the way of discussion of the failures of mormonism. Failures to trust what God has preserved for us in His word. Mormonism demands that Jesus was begotten by Father in the same way natural way mortal men beget their children. The Bible teaches that Mary was found to be with Child of the Holy Spirit.. Can't be both ways.. In believing that the flesh of Jesus was begotten of the LDS Father in heaven is to again deny the words of Jesus that teaches that God is spirit, and that a spirit doesn't have a body of flesh and Bone.. Mormonism denies that the Father is invisible of whom Jesus is the tangible image..

Lastly I would remind you that women seldom like men to advertize their age even when it is clearly stated else where. Just be kind to her as you want others to be kind to you.. Let's discuss mormonism not each other.. IHS jim

[Sir]

Like I said, a thread for a select few who would see the humor.

But thanks anyway.

[James Banta]

Like I said, a thread for a select few who would see the humor.

But thanks anyway.


There is no humor in hurting others by commenting about any individual.. Just keep it to your defense of your church and leave any personalities at the door.. That way no one can give to take personal offense in the subjects we discuss. IHS jim

[Sir]

There is no humor in hurting others by commenting about any individual.. Just keep it to your defense of your church and leave any personalities at the door.. That way no one can give to take personal offense in the subjects we discuss. IHS jim

1) If commenting on individuals is "hurting" them, then you are as guilty if not more so than anyone here.

2) The humor is in the double-standards, hypocrisy, and duplicity in the Anti-LDS mind, which is why, I ***ume, you are not able to see the humor in it.

3) You've said your piece. Thank you. Move on now. :) (Unless you feel the need to keep bumping this awesome thread to the top once more.) :p

[James Banta]

1) If commenting on individuals is "hurting" them, then you are as guilty if not more so than anyone here.

2) The humor is in the double-standards, hypocrisy, and duplicity in the Anti-LDS mind, which is why, I ***ume, you are not able to see the humor in it.

3) You've said your piece. Thank you. Move on now. :) (Unless you feel the need to keep bumping this awesome thread to the top once more.) :p

I hear you, and are right and I was wrong in doing so.. I do agree let's move on.. As we do so let's leave personalities out of the discussion and take up only scriptural and doctrinal matters.. OK?

I don't mind where your thread sits.. First or last it doesn't matter IHS jim

[Billyray]

For a Select Few Who Will Find It Funny...
Who are the "select few who will find it funny"?

[Sir]

Who are the "select few who will find it funny"?

If you have to ask, then don't worry since you are not among them.

[Billyray]

If you have to ask, then don't worry since you are not among them.

So you don't know?

[Sir]

So you don't know?

:rolleyes:

Oh brother.

Well, I guess it's back to billyray needing and trying to get someone to play with him.

No thanks. This thread isn't for the humor-impaired so feel free to leave. But thanks for bumping it to the top again.

[Billyray]

:rolleyes:

Oh brother.

Well, I guess it's back to billyray needing and trying to get someone to play with him.

No thanks. This thread isn't for the humor-impaired so feel free to leave. But thanks for bumping it to the top again.
I guess by your non answer you don't really know. Do you?

[Sir]

I guess by your non answer you don't really know. Do you?

No, it was a dumb question, as are most of yours lately. Then you ask them repeatedly. Merry-go-round.

But thanks for continuing to bump my thread to the top. :)

[Billyray]

No, it was a dumb question, as are most of yours lately.
I don't think it is a dumb question but you are certainly e n t i t l e d to your opinion.

So do you have an answer for me or not?

[Snow Patrol]

I don't think it is a dumb question but you are certainly e n t i t l e d to your opinion.

So do you have an answer for me or not?

Billyray, I think it was a pretty dumb question as well but I'll give you what I think the select few are. Those who have experienced the double standard that is clearly evident at CRAM. The hypocrisy there is evident to anyone who has any kind of sense of fairness. Now, if you don't understand the last two sentences, then you are probably not in the select few Sir was referring to.

[Billyray]

But thanks for continuing to bump my thread to the top.
You welcome.

Do you think that this topic that Brian brought up proves or disproves the truthfulness of Mormonism?

[Billyray]

The hypocrisy there is evident to anyone who has any kind of sense of fairness. Now, if you don't understand the last two sentences, then you are probably not in the select few Sir was referring to.
Although the topic that Brian brought might be interesting it has no bearing on whether or not Mormonism is true or false. But Sir doesn't want to talk about the issues that are relevant to proving Mormonism to be true or false. Rather he would rather talk about just about anything else--which this thread is just another perfect example of that.

[Sir]

Although the topic that Brian brought might be interesting it has no bearing on whether or not Mormonism is true or false. But Sir doesn't want to talk about the issues that are relevant to proving Mormonism to be true or false. Rather he would rather talk about just about anything else--which this thread is just another perfect example of that.

And this is more evidence that billyray just loves talking about me. :)

[RealFakeHair]

And this is more evidence that billyray just loves talking about me. :)

I love it when I am talked about too!

[Sir]

I love it when I am talked about too!

I didn't say I loved it. It's just funny to me since billyray and his cronies demand that they don't need LDS here at all and the forum would be fine. And yet every post from billy is an attempt to get LDS to talk to him, even to the point of taunting them and putting words in their mouth.

And yes, RFH, we know you are needy in the attention dept. too. :p

[Billyray]

And this is more evidence that billyray just loves talking about me. :)
What I love talking about is the fact that you refuse to discuss Mormonism. Right?

[nrajeffreturns]

What I love talking about is the fact that you refuse to discuss Mormonism. Right?

You might have a valid point if your insinuation that he refuses to discuss Mormonism weren't false.

I appreciate learning about another example of Cram's double-standard moderating.

I wonder if Matt Slick's daughter got sick of seeing it, and it became one of her reasons for rejecting her dad's "ministry."

[theway]

Our Anti-LDS friend BrianH decided to create a thread devoted to theorizing why he thinks Mormons are clinically and psychologically screwed up. He even points to specific posters as "evidence".

Our resident friend Apologette (Catherin Aurelia at CARM) asked if having multiple user names is a sign of this psychological problem, to which BrianH affirmed was his point.

So when I posted this response to Apologette/ Catherine's question about multiple user names:



....I was, as you would rightly guess, hit with this:



Yep! It's attacking a user to point out that they, too, have had multiple names on a board. But it ISN'T attacking a user to create a whole thread devoted to calling specific users clinically and psychologically damaged.

It got better though!

Apologette/ Catherine (after whining to the mods per usual), wrote this:



I wrote a reply to each of her points/ criticisms, to clear up her erroneous accusations. But the mods at CARM deleted my entire post.

And when I simply stated that it was unfortunate that Catherine's charges were deemed to go unanswered because the mods deleted my response, I got this:



LOL......ahhhhh, the insecurities and hiding behind a cloak of biased rule-enforcement and indiscriminant censoring.

Oh....and of course the only reply Apologette/ Catherine could muster was "This message is hidden because Apollos is on your ignore list". It is sad that she has to lie like that all the time. But such is the state of her faith and her witness of Christ.Just like I pointed out yesterday on CARM (for which I received my 70th warning/suspension)

If you embarr*** an AntiMormon by winning the argument, they will hit you with a "Interfering With The Ministry" suspension.
You will then get a "Insulting Another Forum Member" suspension if you gloat about it.:o

[Sir]

You might have a valid point if your insinuation that he refuses to discuss Mormonism weren't false.

Exactly. I talk to lots of people all the time about my faith. I don't even mind throwing out some teachings and doctrines to the rabid Anti-LDS Inc. cultists every no and again. Billyray is just complaining because he wants me to talk to HIM, but I've reminded him many times I don't like playing on his merry-go-round. But all he does is ask dumb questions (as you see in this thread alone).


I appreciate learning about another example of Cram's double-standard moderating.

I wonder if Matt Slick's daughter got sick of seeing it, and it became one of her reasons for rejecting her dad's "ministry."

Yeah, it is fun to watch and point out, which makes the Anti-LDS extremists more upset when they are exposed.

[RealFakeHair]

Just like I pointed out yesterday on CARM (for which I received my 70th warning/suspension)

If you embarr*** an AntiMormon by winning the argument, they will hit you with a "Interfering With The Ministry" suspension.
You will then get a "Insulting Another Forum Member" suspension if you gloat about it.:o

How does a TBM win an argument with an anti-mormon? If it is over matters of faith, no one wins that argument, why? Because it is personal belief of the intangible vs the tangible. On matters of the tangible even here the LDSinc. Can't win because of your fallback excuse of (as far as it was translated corrrectly) as it relates to the Holy Bible.
Last but not least is LDSinc. History, this is where TBMs fail miserably. Take for instance, The Mormon Meadow M***acre. I am willingly to bet the average TBM knows every little of the Brigham Young and John Lee connection.
So as we see there is no comparison between a TBM and Christians when it comes to winning or losing.
The Word of God will alway win over the word of a low life con-man's imaginary mind.

[James Banta]

Just like I pointed out yesterday on CARM (for which I received my 70th warning/suspension)

If you embarr*** an AntiMormon by winning the argument, they will hit you with a "Interfering With The Ministry" suspension.
You will then get a "Insulting Another Forum Member" suspension if you gloat about it.:o

Really? When was the last time you were warned or suspended from WM? So tell me how you can embarr*** me here? You could drag my sins up again but all that is confessed and taken to Jesus.. What else can you say? Is there some point of my doctrine that you feel you can embarr*** me? You have spoken against the 5 points of Calvinism and I have fallen back to the scripture to show that the things I believe are scriptural.. The only way I see you having any success in embarr***ing me is to prove that the Bible is mistranslated or false somehow.. Atheists have been doing that all alone so you would have to follow that same path to embarr*** me. That is if you could show that what is taught there by God is false. But any point of doctrine you can prove out of the Bible I will agree to.. I have asked before, teach. Show me my error and I will be grateful to you all my days and throughout eternity.. Gee I am sounding a bit like Orson Pratt there.. I really didn't mean to.. IHS jim

[James Banta]

How does a TBM win an argument with an anti-mormon? If it is over matters of faith, no one wins that argument, why? Because it is personal belief of the intangible vs the tangible. On matters of the tangible even here the LDSinc. Can't win because of your fallback excuse of (as far as it was translated corrrectly) as it relates to the Holy Bible.
Last but not least is LDSinc. History, this is where TBMs fail miserably. Take for instance, The Mormon Meadow M***acre. I am willingly to bet the average TBM knows every little of the Brigham Young and John Lee connection.
So as we see there is no comparison between a TBM and Christians when it comes to winning or losing.
The Word of God will alway win over the word of a low life con-man's imaginary mind.

Every time you show the tangible published reason why the BofM is a man invented story, every time we show that Joseph Smith is a false prophet, every time we show that the unique doctrines of mormonism are 100% UNBIBLICAL, the LDS fall back to their intangible personal beliefs.. Their testimonies.. These have the same authority as our authority of a personal relationship with Jesus, or a confession of love toward or families.. They really have nothing else.. All the historic information given by the foundational leadership of mormonism proves that it is a lie.. Smith teaching three different Gods for this world. Jesus being a creation and not the creator. Adam being our Father and our God and the only God with whom we have to do.. God being a being of flesh and bone as tangible as man. These ANTI BIBLICAL statements are the foundation on which mormonism is based.. If the foundation is rotten then the whole structure is rotten.. IHS jim

[theway]

Really? When was the last time you were warned or suspended from WM? So tell me how you can embarr*** me here? You could drag my sins up again but all that is confessed and taken to Jesus.. What else can you say? Is there some point of my doctrine that you feel you can embarr*** me? You have spoken against the 5 points of Calvinism and I have fallen back to the scripture to show that the things I believe are scriptural.. The only way I see you having any success in embarr***ing me is to prove that the Bible is mistranslated or false somehow.. Atheists have been doing that all alone so you would have to follow that same path to embarr*** me. That is if you could show that what is taught there by God is false. But any point of doctrine you can prove out of the Bible I will agree to.. I have asked before, teach. Show me my error and I will be grateful to you all my days and throughout eternity.. Gee I am sounding a bit like Orson Pratt there.. I really didn't mean to.. IHS jimYawn........... Well back to CARM until you step up your game some.

[Sir]

You could drag my sins up again but all that is confessed and taken to Jesus.. IHS jim

All?

I thought your criticism of LDS is that you cannot remember every sin you commit and so you can never repent of all your sins if you have to take each one to Jesus.

But now you claim to take ALL your sins to Jesus?

All?

You sure about that? Or did you just commit another hypocritical double-standard that Anti-LDS Inc. is known for?

[James Banta]

All?

I thought your criticism of LDS is that you cannot remember every sin you commit and so you can never repent of all your sins if you have to take each one to Jesus.

But now you claim to take ALL your sins to Jesus?

All?

You sure about that? Or did you just commit another hypocritical double-standard that Anti-LDS Inc. is known for?

I see that you still either don't understand or ignore the simple teachings of God in His word, or you just don't believe them.. The Bible teaches that:

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I have confessed so how much of my unrighteousness has He cleansed me of? All of it? So All my sins are dealt with in the blood of the Lamb.. IHS jim

[theway]

I see that you still either don't understand or ignore the simple teachings of God in His word, or you just don't believe them.. The Bible teaches that:

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I have confessed so how much of my unrighteousness has He cleansed me of? All of it? So All my sins are dealt with in the blood of the Lamb.. IHS jimReally???
What about future sins, has God already covered those for you?

Suppose you commit a murder or a rape tomorrow, will those be covered as well?

[RealFakeHair]

Really???
What about future sins, has God already covered those for you?

Suppose you commit a murder or a rape tomorrow, will those be covered as well?

The blood of Christ covers all sins but one, the rejection of Him as Lord and Savior. If you are a child or God of the Holy Bible by His Son Jesus, yes all future sins are covered.

[Sir]

I see that you still either don't understand or ignore the simple teachings of God in His word, or you just don't believe them.. The Bible teaches that:

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I have confessed so how much of my unrighteousness has He cleansed me of? All of it? So All my sins are dealt with in the blood of the Lamb.. IHS jim

I understand fine.

Anti-LDS such as yourself have said that it is impossible to remember EVERY sin committed and therefore impossible to confess EVERY sin. You use this line to disparage the LDS principle of confessing our sins (to either God or priesthood leaders or both).

But now you seem to be claiming this is exactly how you operate and that all your sins are fine.

[Sir]

The blood of Christ covers all sins but one, the rejection of Him as Lord and Savior.

Actually, the sin is denying the Holy Ghost.

[RealFakeHair]

Actually, the sin is denying the Holy Ghost.

That is what I meant. Only the Holy Ghost bring a sinner to Christ; reject Christ is denying The Holy Ghost. See how simple that is.

[theway]

The blood of Christ covers all sins but one, the rejection of Him as Lord and Savior. If you are a child or God of the Holy Bible by His Son Jesus, yes all future sins are covered.
So Martin Luther had it wrong!

You can get sin indulgences, little did he realize that they are free of charge to Christians.

Or to put it in today's vernacular, "Sin All You Want Cedit Cards"

Oh and by the way... According to Critics of the LDS, it would be impossible for someone to commit the unpardonable sin.

[theway]

That is what I meant. Only the Holy Ghost bring a sinner to Christ; reject Christ is denying The Holy Ghost. See how simple that is.
Rejecting Christ is not denying the Holy Ghost!

Back to the end of the line with you.

[Sir]

That is what I meant. Only the Holy Ghost bring a sinner to Christ; reject Christ is denying The Holy Ghost. See how simple that is.

But rejecting Christ is not the sin that Christ Himself said is the unforgiveable sin.

Like theway stated, to reject Christ is not the same as rejecting the Holy Ghost.

[RealFakeHair]

So Martin Luther had it wrong!

You can get sin indulgences, little did he realize that they are free of charge to Christians.

Or to put it in today's vernacular, "Sin All You Want Cedit Cards"

Oh and by the way... According to Critics of the LDS, it would be impossible for someone to commit the unpardonable sin.

(indulgences) is in the eye of the beholder or something. Yes, in a way Grace is a (sin all you want credit card). However it comes with a high interest rate. Look at it this way, the more a Saved person sins the less the blessings from God of the Holy Bible. Take me, I sin more than most and I receive less the blessing for my transgressions. You might say I am hard headed or pig headed or whatever, but I am still Saved by the Grace of God through His Son Jesus Christ.
You are half right it is impossible for a Christian to commit the unpardonable sin. However on the other hand any TBM that hasn't accept Jesus of the Holy Bible as their Lord and Savior, every day you live in the unpardonable sin; That is blaspheming against the Holy Ghost.

[James Banta]

(indulgences) is in the eye of the beholder or something. Yes, in a way Grace is a (sin all you want credit card). However it comes with a high interest rate. Look at it this way, the more a Saved person sins the less the blessings from God of the Holy Bible. Take me, I sin more than most and I receive less the blessing for my transgressions. You might say I am hard headed or pig headed or whatever, but I am still Saved by the Grace of God through His Son Jesus Christ.
You are half right it is impossible for a Christian to commit the unpardonable sin. However on the other hand any TBM that hasn't accept Jesus of the Holy Bible as their Lord and Savior, every day you live in the unpardonable sin; That is blaspheming against the Holy Ghost.

RFH, you sin? say it isn't true.. hehehehe.. I have always found that Christian don't sin as much as they want but we all end up sinning much more than we want.. I don't want to sin at all but never the less I sin, and I sin a lot.. The Grace of God allows Him to see us in the righteousness of Jesus but it also tells us when we have AGAIN fallen short of the way He would have us live.. When the Catholic church started selling "indulgences" they proved they were not part of THE CHURCH.

I agree with you the unforgivable sin is to deny the work of the Holy Spirit in bringing the sinner to Jesus.. As long as a person is either truing to gain their own salvation through righteous acts, or a complete denial of God as part of their live they are in the mist of committing the unforgivable sin.. IHS jim

[James Banta]

Yawn........... Well back to CARM until you step up your game some.


Bye.. Maybe they need your rudeness more than we do.. IHS jim

[James Banta]

Really???
What about future sins, has God already covered those for you?

Suppose you commit a murder or a rape tomorrow, will those be covered as well?

How much of my sin does the p***age say is cleansed? All I can tell you is what the p***age teaches.. It says "He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." He forgives our sin, all we have done in violation of His commandments, and cleanses us of all unrighteousness, any sin we may yet commit.. What does he also teach as to future crimes against Him? Can anything or any one condemn us?

Romans 8:34-39
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

IHS jim

[James Banta]

I understand fine.

Anti-LDS such as yourself have said that it is impossible to remember EVERY sin committed and therefore impossible to confess EVERY sin. You use this line to disparage the LDS principle of confessing our sins (to either God or priesthood leaders or both).

But now you seem to be claiming this is exactly how you operate and that all your sins are fine.

To us we confess all our sin, a sin of being in rebellion against God.. The sin described in James 2:10.. We have broken all His Laws and that is what we confess.. We don't piecemeal our repentance.. To those of you that do you have to keep good accounts.. IHS jim

[nrajeffreturns]

If you embarr*** an AntiMormon by winning the argument, they will hit you with a "Interfering With The Ministry" suspension.
You will then get a "Insulting Another Forum Member" suspension if you gloat about it.:o
You can also get suspended merely for quoting the insult that the anti-LDS person made against LDS people, then mentioning that it was an insult...which is quite hilarious when you think about it.

[nrajeffreturns]

How does a TBM win an argument with an anti-mormon?
By being right. :)

[James Banta]

By being right. :)

It's too bad that the truth of Mormonism runs though lies of gl***looking, the adultery of polygamy, and the cover up of the false doctrine of Adam-God. IHS. jim

[theway]

Bye.. Maybe they need your rudeness more than we do.. IHS jimOf course they do... Just like this forum needs me in order to keep it going as well.

Unless you are still under the delusion that people come here to read what you have to write???
LOL.... now that would be funny.

[theway]

You can also get suspended merely for quoting the insult that the anti-LDS person made against LDS people, then mentioning that it was an insult...which is quite hilarious when you think about it.My funniest suspension was just a few months ago.

I pointed out to a AntiMormon Poster that he was either lying, plagiarizing, or both.

The AntiMormon Poster then complained to the Moderator; at which point I was given a warning for making an allegation of another Poster without any proof.

I then provided date-stamped irrefutable evidence that he was either lying, plagiarizing material, or both.

It was then that the AntiMormon Poster had to admit that the material was plagiarized and said he was sorry.

It was at that point that the Moderator stepped in, deleted my posts, and then suspended me for embarr***ing...... errr.... I mean "insulting another member of the forum"

LOL.... it was comical to watch.

[James Banta]

My funniest suspension was just a few months ago.

I pointed out to a AntiMormon Poster that he was either lying, plagiarizing, or both.

The AntiMormon Poster then complained to the Moderator; at which point I was given a warning for making an allegation of another Poster without any proof.

I then provided date-stamped irrefutable evidence that he was either lying, plagiarizing material, or both.

It was then that the AntiMormon Poster had to admit that the material was plagiarized and said he was sorry.

It was at that point that the Moderator stepped in, deleted my posts, and then suspended me for embarr***ing...... errr.... I mean "insulting another member of the forum"

LOL.... it was comical to watch.

You must be speaking of another forum.. I haven't see anyone using plagiarized (using someone else's work claiming it as their own) material here. Nor have I seen you show that any other prophet other than Joseph Smith ever used sorcery to bring what they called God's word to the people.. Smith used the seer stone he used to locate treasure for people that employed his witching skills to perform that function for them.. The Law called it GL*** LOOKING.. Sort of like the gypsy in a caravel.. The difference is that the gypsy is done for entertainment while gl***looking is an attempt to defraud another person. Still I wouldn't trust a crystal ball gazing gypsy to lead me to God.. IHS jim

[James Banta]

Exactly. I talk to lots of people all the time about my faith. I don't even mind throwing out some teachings and doctrines to the rabid Anti-LDS Inc. cultists every no and again. Billyray is just complaining because he wants me to talk to HIM, but I've reminded him many times I don't like playing on his merry-go-round. But all he does is ask dumb questions (as you see in this thread alone).



Yeah, it is fun to watch and point out, which makes the Anti-LDS extremists more upset when they are exposed.

Almost as upset as mormons get when they first find out that Smith was not the godly man they have always been taught he was.. IHS jim