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RealFakeHair
03-03-2014, 09:31 AM
Once again the LDSinc. Have ran up against more bad publicity concerning the church early teaching from Joseph Smith jr. Imaginary mind. This time it is the teaching of every good LDSinc. Male will get his own planet.
The LDSinc. propaganda dept has felt the need to change this embarr***ment by simply stating, What teaching? That's right they are now saying it is all a misunderstanding, but I want my own Planet Kolob, how about you?
James Banta
03-03-2014, 09:51 AM
Once again the LDSinc. Have ran up against more bad publicity concerning the church early teaching from Joseph Smith jr. Imaginary mind. This time it is the teaching of every good LDSinc. Male will get his own planet.
The LDSinc. propaganda dept has felt the need to change this embarr***ment by simply stating, What teaching? That's right they are now saying it is all a misunderstanding, but I want my own Planet Kolob, how about you?
Yes I see the slide of mormonism away from the deep dark unbiblical teachings of the OLE GUYS Smith and Young to a more acceptable christian idea of salvation.. Still their works based teaching have not changed..  I really think in the next 50 to 100 years mormonism will be theologically dead and a new christian denomination will replace it's false teachings..  IHS  jim
neverending
03-03-2014, 12:09 PM
Once again the LDSinc. Have ran up against more bad publicity concerning the church early teaching from Joseph Smith jr. Imaginary mind. This time it is the teaching of every good LDSinc. Male will get his own planet.
The LDSinc. propaganda dept has felt the need to change this embarr***ment by simply stating, What teaching? That's right they are now saying it is all a misunderstanding, but I want my own Planet Kolob, how about you?
Hey, this was very interesting. Where did you get the info? It was this very idea that I argued with my Dad about when I was 14. I told him then that if all I was going to do in the next life was to have spirit children for eternity, then I wasn't going. Heaven to me will be a peaceful place, where we will worship God and learn from him and share our love for family who are there with us.
RealFakeHair
03-03-2014, 12:30 PM
Hey, this was very interesting. Where did you get the info? It was this very idea that I argued with my Dad about when I was 14. I told him then that if all I was going to do in the next life was to have spirit children for eternity, then I wasn't going. Heaven to me will be a peaceful place, where we will worship God and learn from him and share our love for family who are there with us.
Glenn Beck web-site
theway
03-03-2014, 06:57 PM
Hey, this was very interesting. Where did you get the info? It was this very idea that I argued with my Dad about when I was 14. I told him then that if all I was going to do in the next life was to have spirit children for eternity, then I wasn't going. Heaven to me will be a peaceful place, where we will worship God and learn from him and share our love for family who are there with us.LOL... the irony is that no mater which theology you go with, you will never get either if you keep at you current pace.
Per Evangelical doctrine you will not be married or having children, niether will you be in the same place as you heretical 
Mormon family.
In Mormon doctrine because of your choices, you will not be married and having children in the world to come. Neither will you be in the same place that your Mormon family will be.
Phoenix
03-03-2014, 07:12 PM
I want my own Planet Kolob, how about you?
If you want your own planet, are you currently in a church that teaches that you will get one? If not, then I guess you are out of luck.
neverending
03-03-2014, 08:06 PM
LOL... the irony is that no mater which theology you go with, you will never get either if you keep at you current pace.
Per Evangelical doctrine you will not be married or having children, niether will you be in the same place as you heretical 
Mormon family.
In Mormon doctrine because of your choices, you will not be married and having children in the world to come. Neither will you be in the same place that your Mormon family will be.
Guess you didn't read my comment with what you've stated here. I could care less about being married or having children in the next life for the Bible tells us, "But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven" (Matt. 22:30). Don't think you will be having eternal sex with your wife or wives for that is total nonsense and for anyone to believe that has a real problem with reality and logic. And as for my Mormon family, they are not in heaven or will be in heaven, for they have denied the true Jesus Christ and believe in false doctrines and are lost, especially my only living sibling who is an atheist. They will stand before God to be judged which will be a terrible thing.
theway
03-03-2014, 10:07 PM
Guess you didn't read my comment with what you've stated here. I could care less about being married or having children in the next life for the Bible tells us, "But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven" (Matt. 22:30). Don't think you will be having eternal sex with your wife or wives for that is total nonsense and for anyone to believe that has a real problem with reality and logic. And as for my Mormon family, they are not in heaven or will be in heaven, for they have denied the true Jesus Christ and believe in false doctrines and are lost, especially my only living sibling who is an atheist. They will stand before God to be judged which will be a terrible thing. You are simply saying exactly what I already pointed out... From your point of view or mine, the afterlife for you will not be the one you wanted.
James Banta
03-04-2014, 09:10 AM
You are simply saying exactly what I already pointed out... From your point of view or mine, the afterlife for you will not be the one you wanted.
Total nonsense.. Jesus clearly tells us that in such a resurrection "THOSE WHO ARE WORTHY they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven". Worthy believers then will be like the angels not like God.. 
Luke 20:34-36
And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
If a person must be worth to gain that resurrection what does that say about the idea that as far as marriage goes we will be anything other than being like the angels?  IHS  jim
neverending
03-04-2014, 09:47 AM
You are simply saying exactly what I already pointed out... From your point of view or mine, the afterlife for you will not be the one you wanted.
Yes it will! It will be you who will be disappointed. I claim God's word and anything JS said as lies and deceit! Anything JS said only leads souls away from the one true God and His salvation. Since I know that Mormons hate the Bible it's a real shame that what is written there is not important to you or any Mormon. I stated Matthew 22:30, that should be enough. If you disagree with the words of my Savior, then I feel sorry for you. Why would Christ lie? Why would he not speak the truth so that many will be able to accept him and be saved? What did he say in John 3:16? ....whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE! What does everlasting life mean to you?
Since I know that Mormons hate the Bible it's a real shame that what is written there is not important to you or any Mormon. 
As a Mormon, I know that I and every other Mormon I've met love and revere the Bible. If you claim to "know" something that I happen to know is actually the opposite that is true, how am I supposed to believe you when you witness what you know about Jesus?
RealFakeHair
03-04-2014, 03:22 PM
As a Mormon, I know that I and every other Mormon I've met love and revere the Bible. If you claim to "know" something that I happen to know is actually the opposite that is true, how am I supposed to believe you when you witness what you know about Jesus?
Some men I know love their wives too, even though they don't trust them.
neverending
03-04-2014, 04:57 PM
As a Mormon, I know that I and every other Mormon I've met love and revere the Bible. If you claim to "know" something that I happen to know is actually the opposite that is true, how am I supposed to believe you when you witness what you know about Jesus?
You can't revere the Bible when your own Article of Faith claims that you believe the Bible as far as it is translated correctly. This gives ALL Mormons the chance to have a huge cop out when scriptures don't agree with other Mormon doctrines; is that not correct?
Phoenix
03-04-2014, 06:02 PM
You can't revere the Bible when your own Article of Faith claims that you believe the Bible as far as it is translated correctly. 
Who believes it where it is translated incorrectly? And why would they? 
This gives ALL Mormons the chance to have a huge cop out when scriptures don't agree with other Mormon doctrines; is that not correct? 
Do you have some examples where Mormons have done this?
You can't revere the Bible when your own Article of Faith claims that you believe the Bible as far as it is translated correctly. This gives ALL Mormons the chance to have a huge cop out when scriptures don't agree with other Mormon doctrines; is that not correct? 
Can you tell us which translation of the Bible you believe is 100% correct? 
Every Christian I know will admit that there is not one single translation that is 100% perfectly correct. They will tell you that the original autographs were correct, but as for translations, we have to just look to what scholars deem to be the most accurate. 
Some say the KJV is not as accurate a translation as a newer one, like NIV. In so saying, they are agreeing that one translation is better, and as such agree that the translation that is better is the one they believe is "translated correctly". 
Thus Christianity actually agree with the LDS Article of Faith about believing the Bible as far as it is translated correctly.
James Banta
03-07-2014, 10:21 AM
Can you tell us which translation of the Bible you believe is 100% correct? 
Every Christian I know will admit that there is not one single translation that is 100% perfectly correct. They will tell you that the original autographs were correct, but as for translations, we have to just look to what scholars deem to be the most accurate. 
Some say the KJV is not as accurate a translation as a newer one, like NIV. In so saying, they are agreeing that one translation is better, and as such agree that the translation that is better is the one they believe is "translated correctly". 
Thus Christianity actually agree with the LDS Article of Faith about believing the Bible as far as it is translated correctly.
Every edition of the Bible that was prayerfully and scholarly translated is accurate. The KJV is a great translation but the English language is a living language. Do you know what that means? The language changes, word meaning is modified over the years.. Take the word CHARITY. In 1611 charity meant LOVE, All forms of love.. Brotherly love, romantic love, and Godly love all were reflected by the word CHARITY.  Today we use that word to describe our giving of gifts to the poor. The changes in the Language doesn't weaken our understanding of the scripture but is the KJV inaccurate?  NO!! It is a wonderful translation.. And I love it's use of language as found in 1 Cor 13 it's magnificent. "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding br***, or a tinkling cymbal." compared to the NASB "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."  For me the KJV in that p***age teaches what Love is much more beautifully than does any other version. Make note just because the language is different the message remains the same.. Many of the Psalms are like that.. The beauty of the KJV is without peer..  Is the message different?  NO!! The truth is taught by all such translation. The NIV, the NASB, and the KJV all hold a place as being 100% faithful to the real word of God and that being the message He has always intended to get us to understand..
If it wasn't for the unscholarly addition and deletions found in the New World and Inspired  Versions of the Bible the same thing could be said of them but without scholarship nor support in the original languages such changes were made.. Because of the lack of fidelity of these texts are subject to serious question.. The Bible all of the scholarly translation are 100% correct and trustworthy..  AS Translated correctly needs to be used for Smith's work not those that were responsible for the good translation that have been made..  IHS  jim
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