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alanmolstad
08-13-2016, 03:14 PM
YEC claim - The traditional interpretation of the church is that creation days are 24 hours long


Fact- that is False, this is a recent interpretation of Genesis. Nearly all of the early church fathers believed that creation days were longer than 24 hours.
If fact, most believed that creation days were 1,000 years long...

alanmolstad
08-13-2016, 03:16 PM
YEC claim - The Sun was created on the 4th day


Fact - The entire universe was created on or before the first day and sunlight was upon the earth before the end of the first day. How could there be day and night on the Earth if it were not rotating on its axis?

alanmolstad
08-13-2016, 03:18 PM
YEC claim - Physical death and carnivorous activity is evil


Fact - God killed animals to clothe Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:21) and in the flood judgment (Genesis 7), and sanctioned the killing of animals as a sacrifice as early as Genesis 4. In addition, according to the Bible, He provides food for the carnivorous animals (4 OT references and 1 by Jesus). Carnivorous activity is NOT evil, but was DESIGNED by God.

alanmolstad
08-13-2016, 03:19 PM
YEC claim - Physical death and carnivorous activity is evil


Fact - God killed animals to clothe Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:21) and in the flood judgment (Genesis 7), and sanctioned the killing of animals as a sacrifice as early as Genesis 4. In addition, according to the Bible, He provides food for the carnivorous animals (4 OT references and 1 by Jesus). Carnivorous activity is NOT evil, but was DESIGNED by God.

jude1:3
08-14-2016, 02:41 AM
Nearly all of the early church fathers believed that creation days were longer than 24 hours.
If fact, most believed that creation days were 1,000 years long





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* St. Ephraim the Syrian*
“No one should think that the Creation of Six Days is an allegory" - *St. Ephraim the Syrian* / Commentary on Genesis Ch.1




* HIPPOLYTUS *
He did not say "night and day," but "one day," with reference to the name of the light. He did not say the "first day;" for if he had said the "first" day, he would also have had to say that the "second" day was made. But it was right to speak not of the "first day," but of "one day," in order that by saying "one," he might show that it returns on its orbit and, while it remains one, makes up the week.
* THE EXTANT WORKS AND FRAGMENTS OF HIPPOLYTUS p. 163 *




* ST. BASIL * VOLUME VIII
And the evening and the morning were one day. Why does Scripture say "one day the first day"? Before speaking to us of the second, the third, and the fourth days, would it not have been more natural to call that one the first which began the series? If it therefore says "one day," it is from a wish to determine the measure of day and night, and to combine the time that they contain. Now Twenty-Four Hours Fill Up The Space Of One Day--we mean of a day and of a night; and if, at the time of the solstices, they have not both an equal length, the time marked by Scripture does not the less circumscribe their duration. It is as though it said: Now Twenty-Four Hours Fill Up The Space Of One Day, or that, in reality a day is the time that the heavens starting from one point take to return there. Thus, every time that, in the revolution of the sun, evening and morning occupy the world, their periodical succession never exceeds the space of one day.
* THE BOOK OF ST. BASIL ON THE SPIRIT HOMILY II pp. 64-65 *

Hexaemeron (Homily 2)
#8 from this site:

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/32012.htm

jude1:3
08-14-2016, 03:30 AM
How does it feel knowing that the Garbage you're trying to peddle to us lead to the horrible treatment of this man named Ota Benga ?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4QyJtIhhpA

alanmolstad
08-14-2016, 07:45 AM
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alanmolstad
08-14-2016, 07:48 AM
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alanmolstad
08-14-2016, 08:04 AM
"Has NASA established the missing day of Joshua?"

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/urbanmyth.html

jude1:3
08-14-2016, 02:38 PM
I Refuted your first post in this thread and you ignored it.