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jude1:3
11-06-2016, 04:09 PM
I recently found out about an obscure verse in Genesis that describes the break up of PANGEA. Check this out :

To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, FOR IN HIS DAYS THE EARTH WAS DIVIDED; and his brother’s name was Joktan.
*Genesis 10:25

Very Interesting:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Pangaea_to_present.gif

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/7f/72/937f721864460c445daf9775e82d1e79.jpg

jude1:3
11-06-2016, 04:10 PM
When the Spanish arrived in Mexico in the 1500's The Aztecs were performing Ritual Human Sacrifices to Quetzalcoatl The Feathered "Serpent" on top of Pyramids. Keep in mind these people had never been exposed to Christianity or even heard about the Devil, Satan, The Dragon, The Serpent Etc. and the book of Revelation had already been written for 1,400 years :

Revelation 12:9
So the Great Dragon was cast out, That Serpent Of Old, Called the Devil and Satan, who Deceives The Whole World; He was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 20:2
He laid hold of The Dragon, That Serpent Of Old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

http://img.informador.com.mx/biblioteca/imagen/370x277/581/580070.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Quetzalcoatl_telleriano.jpg





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8WqEyXIyc

tdidymas
11-18-2016, 11:13 AM
I recently found out about an obscure verse in Genesis that describes the break up of PANGEA. Check this out :

To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, FOR IN HIS DAYS THE EARTH WAS DIVIDED; and his brother’s name was Joktan.
*Genesis 10:25

Very Interesting:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Pangaea_to_present.gif

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/7f/72/937f721864460c445daf9775e82d1e79.jpg

The "breakup of Pangaea" map is interesting, but complete fiction, which most geologists attest. Gen. 10:25 division is referring to PEOPLE, NOT LAND. This statement about dividing the earth inside a genealogy is introductory to the next section which is a historical narrative, in which the dividing the earth is explained (11:7-9) by the confounding of languages which scattered the people abroad. The scattering of the people = "the earth was divided."
TD:)

alanmolstad
11-18-2016, 02:01 PM
the idea that the Bible is talking about the break up of PANGEA is a bit of a reach....

jude1:3
12-01-2016, 08:54 AM
It clearly says Earth not people.

jude1:3
12-01-2016, 08:59 AM
I'm right on this. Some of you guys like to disagree just to do it.

alanmolstad
12-01-2016, 05:01 PM
It clearly says Earth not people.


The same writer in just a few verses later says, "And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech."

So the planet itself can speak?....dirt speaks?...rocks speak?


What seems to be the case is that the writer makes use here of the word "earth" when talking about all the "people"

Only people speak.....rocks and trees and gr*** and stuff dont speak.

So seen in this context that is just a few verses later that the other verse, the same writer has clearly shown us that in this context, "earth" = "people"

jude1:3
12-01-2016, 08:14 PM
Think what you want to think about it.

alanmolstad
12-01-2016, 10:03 PM
Think what you want to think about it.

Well I would hope that by looking at the way the writer clearly makes use of the same word just a few sentences later we can get a very good idea what he means by the same word here.

alanmolstad
12-02-2016, 06:33 AM
reading the link at the start and its information reminded me of back in the late 80s to mid 90s where there was a great push in the Christian media behind books and teachers that were selling the idea that the leader of Iraq might be the anti-Christ.

I remember I had to talk about this idea that so many of my friends were asking about in Bible Study, and so I checked out the books that were being sold at that time on the topic.
What i saw going on is the very same concept that is in play here with this idea about the meaning of the word "Earth">

The writer will look around at the world he finds now, be it on the TV news, or in a book on early earth history, or some type of popular teaching, and then try to open up their Bible to find that very same thing talked about in the Scriptures.


Well guess what?......they can...

Thats the thing with the Bible, for if you go to the Bible looking to support even your most crazy idea you most of the time can find a verse or two that can be twisted around to seem like their actually support your nutty idea!

People have been finding ways to add up names and numbers to get to 666 for 2000 years.
Chances are that if you want you can dream up any name or idea and find a way to promote that idea with the text of the Bible.

alanmolstad
12-02-2016, 06:40 AM
Now as for the verse in question at Genesis 10, what I think we are clearly dealing with here is that the writer is listing for us how people spread out across the land.

The writer talks about lists of names and sometimes talks about where these people ended up living.

This is all getting us ready for the next big story that the Writer is about to deal with being the Tower of Babel.


You can see that this next story is being set up here with the introduction of the idea that the people on the earth are being broken up into different nations.
From this context, a context that is in good agreement with the upcoming story of the Tower of babel, you can see easy that when the writer talks about the earth being divided, he is simply talking about how we ended up with many different languages as he will bring up in a very few moments in his story.

jude1:3
12-02-2016, 07:19 AM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Pangea_animation_03.gif

jude1:3
12-02-2016, 07:33 AM
Ancient Serpent Worship:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_worship


*Revelation 12:3
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having Seven Heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ef/b4/08/efb408ff0d034facae4ea91d590dbf67.jpg

https://cadernosazuis.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/buddha_naga2.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4039/4521083095_c5118afbc6_b.jpg

alanmolstad
12-02-2016, 03:15 PM
*Revelation 12:3
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having Seven Heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.





You know....there is another way to understand that verse that has nothing at all to do with snake worship, or the worship of false gods...

Have you ever had a look at the verse and took it to be talking about something in the "heaven" that it actually says it's talking about?

Im talking about the stars in the night sky.....or rather the constellations....the way people have come up with ways to group bunches of stars together in sections like "Orion and Taurus" etc.....

jude1:3
12-02-2016, 05:33 PM
You know....there is another way to understand that verse that has nothing at all to do with snake worship, or the worship of false gods...

Have you ever had a look at the verse and took it to be talking about something in the "heaven" that it actually says it's talking about?

Im talking about the stars in the night sky.....or rather the constellations....the way people have come up with ways to group bunches of stars together in sections like "Orion and Taurus" etc.....






That may be true.


I posted these images of "The Naga" usually found in India to show an interesting comparison of Pagan Idols with literal descriptions found in Revelation.

alanmolstad
12-02-2016, 06:05 PM
I think it was back in the early 1970s when I first had to read parts of Rev 11 in a Bible cl*** study that i came to understand what i was reading was just a weird way of talking about the many different star constellations in the night sky.

jude1:3
12-02-2016, 06:18 PM
I think it was back in the early 1970s when I first had to read parts of Rev 11 in a Bible cl*** study that i came to understand what i was reading was just a weird way of talking about the many different star constellations in the night sky.







Revelation 12:3-4 desribes what Revelation 12:7-9 is describing. It calls the angels that fell with Satan "Stars".


3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the Stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.


7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

alanmolstad
12-03-2016, 07:17 AM
Revelation 12:3-4 desribes what Revelation 12:7-9 is describing. It calls the angels that fell with Satan "Stars".


3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the Stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.


7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Every time I read such Bible verses I find that to me personally it seems to be talking about the different star constellations in the sky and how they move and change in their appearance during the year and with the tilt of the earth how some will seem to disappear and some appear...


in fact, when you just go read the whole book of Revelation and start to note the listings that may be simply references to the stars that the writer would be seeing in the sky you find that a lot, ...a real lot of the stuff is just that...

Just references to the stars in his sky.



CONSIDER :
"Rev. 12:1-2 says, “And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth."


The whole thing, from start to finish seems to me to be talking about a planet that is seen moving into a constellation and then moving out later during the year.


AND CONSIDER:
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”

To me, when I read that verse I always have the idea of a guy watching the rise of a new constellation at some point during the year.
I mean the guy was trapped on an island right?...so he would watch any new constellation rise up out of the sea ...





This points me to one of the key things I have always felt true about the book of revelation.

I dont think we should read it as some type of real eyewitness account of some type of real event that this guy saw.
I dont think we can read it as if the guy saw some type of thing craw out of the sea and so ran to his desk and started writing about it.

Rather I see it as a work of a writer that had some ideas that as he put them down on paper he used things around him in his writings and was inspired by many things that he saw in his life while on an island.

Mankind has been out under the stars for a long long time..
We have looked up at the stars and had them inspire us in many ways..
I believe this even is true for men in the Bible like Abraham...and here John.



Its sorta like -
"When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars"

jude1:3
12-04-2016, 12:32 PM
More Scriptures referring to both Angels and Fallen Angels as "Stars" :



*Revelation 1:19-20
19 Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this. 20 The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lamp stands: The seven Stars Are The Angels of the seven churches, and the seven lamp stands which you saw are the seven churches.




*Revelation 9:1
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw A Star fall from heaven unto the earth: and To Him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

jude1:3
12-04-2016, 12:43 PM
The Pharaoh's mask had a hood like a cobra:



http://cdn.phys.org/newman/gfx/news/hires/Indiancobra.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2519996/thumbs/o-KING-TUT-MASK-570.jpg?4

jude1:3
12-04-2016, 12:55 PM
When Moses was bringing the children of Israel out of Egypt Pharaoh's Magicians were performing demonic magic :




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbhMTfBsD9g








The Punishment for Sorcerers is the Lake of Fire:

*Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

jude1:3
12-04-2016, 04:16 PM
Oceanic Floor Plate Tectonics and Oceanic Drift:



https://s17.postimg.org/63aobuk5b/plates_1.jpg

https://s3.postimg.org/xrt3dw71f/plateswtopo.jpg

jude1:3
12-04-2016, 04:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyhOKnyWASE

alanmolstad
12-05-2016, 05:59 AM
The Young earthers in the video clip above are why I have always told people here that Young Earth Creationism is very much like a CULT.

alanmolstad
12-05-2016, 06:04 AM
In the video clip you see the two guys struggling to make a crazy idea appear in a better light.

Their idea is that all the lands split apart in one big movement.
They base this on nothing.

They base this only on the need they have for it to be true so that other ideas they have will work.

This is just like another crazy idea that have about the light in Genesis that has no source...
Their 'source-less light" idea is something they came up with because they needed it so that other ideas they have will not fall apart.

This is the same for all the YEC teachings.

They all are invented by men in order to keep their ideas from falling like a house of cards.




so yes, its a CULT.....

jude1:3
12-05-2016, 09:21 AM
This is the same for all the YEC teachings.







This Thread is Not about YEC. Please, (and I'm genuinely asking here) Please don't try to make this thread a YEC Debate. Start a thread in the evolution/creation section. Please and Thank You.

alanmolstad
12-05-2016, 05:08 PM
This Thread is Not about YEC. Please, (and I'm genuinely asking here) Please don't try to make this thread a YEC Debate. Start a thread in the evolution/creation section. Please and Thank You.

Let see...whatrs tyhe ***le of this topic again?

"The Break Up of PANGEA, Genesis 10:25 and Pyramids Around The World"


and what was that video posted last week again about ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyhOKnyWASE




Seems to me that someone else has sure wanted to sneak in a bit of Creationism on us does it not?

jude1:3
12-05-2016, 06:18 PM
You are being very inconsiderate.

You believe and push evolution so you have proven yourself untrustworthy.

alanmolstad
12-05-2016, 08:26 PM
I always will speak up whenever I see the camel's nose of Young Earth Creationism sneaking under the Christian tent...

YEC is very much like a CULT as you can see in the video clip you posted.

The guys clearly are inventing junk and twisting things in order to make it agree with the teachings they want to push on us....


But I think we are smarting than they expect....

jude1:3
12-05-2016, 08:35 PM
I always will speak up whenever I see the camel's nose of Young Earth Creationism sneaking under the Christian tent...

YEC is very much like a CULT as you can see in the video clip you posted.

The guys clearly are inventing junk and twisting things in order to make it agree with the teachings they want to push on us....


But I think we are smarting than they expect....





You're trying to decieve people into believing evolution and I hope you fail.

alanmolstad
12-05-2016, 09:14 PM
Im only showing that if you just stick to the text of Genesis as written you will not find squat to support the Young earth teachings.

You also will not find support for the idea that Genesis 10 is talking about the break up of a large land m***.....

Nor do you find any support in the Bible for much of anything that the two guys in the video are talking about...

jude1:3
12-05-2016, 10:44 PM
Debate thread opened in other section.

alanmolstad
12-06-2016, 07:03 AM
I think it was back in the early 1970s when I first had to read parts of Rev 11 in a Bible cl*** study that i came to understand what i was reading was just a weird way of talking about the many different star constellations in the night sky.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuNs6LL8Lk




While many videos and websites on this topic will dive into what it all "means" I tend to avoide that right now and only deal with what the text says.....

And what I see that text saying seems to me to be only talking about the stars in the night sky and how they were interpreted at the time this was written.


I will leave what it all means to others....

jude1:3
12-06-2016, 07:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuNs6LL8Lk




While many videos and websites on this topic will dive into what it all "means" I tend to avoide that right now and only deal with what the text says.....

And what I see that text saying seems to me to be only talking about the stars in the night sky and how they were interpreted at the time this was written.


I will leave what it all means to others....




The seven Stars ARE The Angels of the seven churches - Revelation 1:20

alanmolstad
12-06-2016, 08:44 AM
The seven Stars ARE The Angels of the seven churches - Revelation 1:20

whats an "angel" to a church?.....

alanmolstad
12-06-2016, 08:59 AM
whats an "angel" to a church?.....
see thats the thing...the use of symbolism in the whole book is why I tend to not try to tell people what things mean.

Rather I try to stick with things that just appear in the text and allow it to tell the story.

When I read about the "seven stars"..I simply believe its talking about stars.

When it talks about the seven stars 'are" the 'angels' i leave that to be what it says without attempting to tell people what the angels are, or what the different churches represent etc...


What i have come to understand is that the whole basic story told in the book of revelation is taken from looking at the stars in the night sky and developing a story by blending many of the common old myths told about the different constellations with a more 'Christ-centered" point of view.

jude1:3
12-06-2016, 09:15 AM
The seven Stars ARE the Angels. Revelation 1:20

alanmolstad
12-07-2016, 05:47 AM
The seven Stars ARE the Angels. Revelation 1:20
In a way , yes....
But not literally angels...

In reality the stars are just that,.,,,,stars.

What we notice when we look at the book of Revelation is that it seems clearly to be inspired by the common stories told about the constellations, but with a more "Christ-centered" POV.

The many times the number of stars or crowns are listed...the way the story of the Book of rev unfolds, its all inspired by the common myths told about the stars seen in the sky.

For example, just watch the video I posted above to see how the story told to us in revelation can be easily understood to be totally inspired by the myths told about the stars in the sky...
The use of 12 stars to talk about the lady about to give birth,,,,the dragon that was in heaven...the way the dragon is cast out of heaven....the fate of the antichrist.....everything is based on the star stories that had been told over 100s of years before this was written.

jude1:3
12-07-2016, 01:37 PM
Read it again:


The seven Stars ARE the Angels. Revelation 1:20

alanmolstad
12-07-2016, 02:58 PM
https://youtu.be/ViuNs6LL8Lk
Read it again:


The seven Stars ARE the Angels. Revelation 1:20
yes, but the 7 stars are actually just stars....thats what they "ARE" in real life.....

They appear in the sky at night...and were used by the writer of the book to represent different things....
https://youtu.be/ViuNs6LL8Lk

jude1:3
12-07-2016, 10:01 PM
Plate Boundaries

From : http://www.divediscover.whoi.edu/tectonics/boundaries.html


http://www.divediscover.whoi.edu/images/tectonics_arrows.jpg



"The red is earthquake and hot zones. Notice on the map how most of the
earthquakes and volcanoes occur along narrow bands. These bands correspond
to the boundaries of plates."


http://www.divediscover.whoi.edu/images/tectonics_earthquake.gif

DrDavidT
01-27-2017, 09:39 PM
there is absolutely no evidence for a super continent that split into the continents we have today.

alanmolstad
01-28-2017, 12:10 AM
oh I think there is...based on the manner that the current continents are shaped and fit so nice with each other...

DrDavidT
02-02-2017, 12:21 AM
oh I think there is...based on the manner that the current continents are shaped and fit so nice with each other...

That means absolutely nothing and in looking at what jude posted it is amazing there still a discussion going on with this topic. The verse 'he named him Peleg because the world was divided in his time' (paraphrase) can and most likely refers to the events of Babel and the disporia not a break up of a super continent.

As for animals being located in only a few or one geographical location, the explanations are easy and logical-- over-hunting, being one of them

DrDavidT
02-02-2017, 12:22 AM
oh I think there is...based on the manner that the current continents are shaped and fit so nice with each other...

That means absolutely nothing and in looking at what jude posted it is amazing there still a discussion going on with this topic. The verse 'he named him Peleg because the world was divided in his time' (paraphrase) can and most likely refers to the events of Babel and the disporia not a break up of a super continent.

As for animals being located in only a few or one geographical location, the explanations are easy and logical-- over-hunting, being one of them

alanmolstad
02-02-2017, 04:35 AM
That means absolutely nothing and in looking at what jude posted it is amazing there still a discussion going on with this topic.

I was unaware the topic was still going on, as I believe I have answered it sufficiently .

DrDavidT
02-05-2017, 08:49 PM
I was unaware the topic was still going on, as I believe I have answered it sufficiently .

You didn't.

Where is the record of this split or division of the continents. At best all you have to offer is conjecture on the subject no real evidence/

alanmolstad
02-05-2017, 09:02 PM
You didn't.

Where is the record of this split or division of the continents. At best all you have to offer is conjecture on the subject no real evidence/the record?

what record?,,...

DrDavidT
02-10-2017, 01:39 AM
the record?

what record?,,...

the historical documentation that supports your point of view and that the continents were once joined together as one.

alanmolstad
02-10-2017, 04:37 AM
Just to be clear.

I was saying the following-

Were the continents ever connected?...yes

is this talked about in the Bible?...no

alanmolstad
02-10-2017, 05:07 AM
So I believe that any child with a map of the world has seen that the continents do fit and that science has traced the path the continents have taken over time.

But I do not really believe this idea is talked about in the Bible.

The verse in the Bible that the person behind this topic listed was clearly NOT TALKING about continental drift.

MacG
02-11-2017, 12:48 AM
So I believe that any child with a map of the world has seen that the continents do fit and that science has traced the path the continents have taken over time.

But I do not really believe this idea is talked about in the Bible.

The verse in the Bible that the person behind this topic listed was clearly NOT TALKING about continental drift.

The only geological mention of one land m*** is inferred in Genesis where it says that all of the water was gathered into one place. If the water is in one place then the dry land must be in the other. This mind you is at the beginning so if one is not a YE and the land m*** is at the beginning there is time for it all to drift apart. But even this is a bit of Western based eisogesis.

alanmolstad
02-11-2017, 08:37 AM
yes,,,not enough to base an idea or teaching on..

the science tells us that the earth has had many times when many of the land areas would slam into each other then split off again..



What is an idea tnhat is slightly connected to this is that i believe the Bible teaches that the earth started out originally as a dead and DRY world....not a world covered in seas.

I believe that over time the Bible tells us that the earth later became covered in water, but that is not how the earth started out.

MacG
02-11-2017, 11:16 AM
yes,,,not enough to base an idea or teaching on..

the science tells us that the earth has had many times when many of the land areas would slam into each other then split off again..



What is an idea tnhat is slightly connected to this is that i believe the Bible teaches that the earth started out originally as a dead and DRY world....not a world covered in seas.

I believe that over time the Bible tells us that the earth later became covered in water, but that is not how the earth started out.

I would be interested how you get that in light of :

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was [a]formless and void, and darkness was over the [b]surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was [c]moving over the [d]surface of the waters"

and:

"6 Then God said, “Let there be [e]an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 God made the [f]expanse, and separated the waters which were below the [g]expanse from the waters which were above the [h]expanse; and it was so."

and:

" Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas;"

alanmolstad
02-11-2017, 12:51 PM
I would be interested how you get that in light of :

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was [a]formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was [c]moving over the [d]surface of the waters"

and:

"6 Then God said, “Let there be [e]an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 God made the [f]expanse, and separated the waters which were below the [g]expanse from the waters which were above the [h]expanse; and it was so."

and:

" Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so. 10 God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas;"

and the answer is -

"Genesis 2"




When you read Genesis 2 you see the writer talk about a time in early earth's history before one drop of water was found on the surface.

So in other words, Genesis 2 actually comes before Genesis 1 in the timeline.


Lets read Gen 2 and see how this is -
"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, [B]in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,"

Notice the writer of genemsis is introducing us to the time period he will be talking about...He says we are dealing with the "Day" that the heavens and the earth 'were created"

So what day were the heavens and the earth said in the story to be created?.....the answer is the First day!


This shows us that the writer is about to talk next about things that happened on the first day of the creation week.


Lets read on at genesis 2 -
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."



Yes, its a bit of a long sentence, but it is there to help confirm to the reader what time setting this next part of the story takes place.

Notice it is said to be before thje introduction of man. We have already read that man was created on the 6th day, so this shows us we are about to deal with events that took place before the 6th day.

Notice also that there are said to not yet be any plants.We can go back and check to find that plants were introduced into the story on Day 3....so we are talking about events that came before the 3rd day of the creation week.

Now notice that the writer tells us that it has yet to even rain water on the earth..
When we check this is in agreement then with the time the wtriter wants us to have in mind as in the creation story we see water on Day 1...

So to sum this all up, the writer of the Genesis story has been very clearly telling us that he is about to talk about a time that happend on the very first day of the creation story.

Before plants, befoire man, before water.


Now lets find out where all the waters that the Spirit of God is said to be hovering over came from is they were not there all the time?


"But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground."


There is how we got all the seas and the deep water that the Hpoly spirit is said to be hovering over.
The Bible says it came forth from underground....


Notice it says this mist would go on to "watered the whole face of the ground."!!!!

So its not just a little water we are talking about...not a little soaking..But a flooding that covered the entire earth in water...the WHOLE FACE of the ground!!!!


Nothing was not under water...


it is at this point in earth's time line that the Spirit of God is said to "hover" over the waters....





Thus we can now understand that the earth was created as a dead and DRY world.

DrDavidT
02-13-2017, 06:55 PM
sigh... you would be mistaken