Best depiction I could come up with...

[johnd]

http://www.dogtrainingsmartline.com/Animated%20Gifs/Large%20Gifs/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_clr.gif

[sunofmysoul]

http://www.dogtrainingsmartline.com/Animated%20Gifs/Large%20Gifs/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_clr.gif


is this some sort of joke?:eek:

[bhuvana-mohan dasa]

is this some sort of joke?:eek:

JohnD's learned how to Google animations........look out :D............

No doubt, many, many more such paltry subs***utes for scholarship await us.......

ys,
bmd.

[sayso]

JohnD's learned how to Google animations........look out :D............

No doubt, many, many more such paltry subs***utes for scholarship await us.......

ys,
bmd.


Is this your faith? I used to have friends who belonged to this faith.

[sunofmysoul]

Is this your faith? I used to have friends who belonged to this faith.

Hello sayso...dear bmd is Hare Krishna....

but i too have several friends who belong to this faith (Baha'i)
and have been tremendously blessed and challenged in my walk by them.
Ever thankful for the cyberworld that led me to them...:)

with love,
soms

[sayso]

Hello sayso...dear bmd is Hare Krishna....

but i too have several friends who belong to this faith (Baha'i)
and have been tremendously blessed and challenged in my walk by them.
Ever thankful for the cyberworld that led me to them...:)

with love,
soms

Thanks for being so kind as to answer soms. I'm new here and hadn't gotten around to reading all of the threads and posts yet. I eventually did come across the one where he stated his beliefs.

Are you of the Baha'i faith also or just have friends who are?

[sunofmysoul]

Thanks for being so kind as to answer soms. I'm new hear and hadn't gotten around to reading all of the threads and posts yet. I eventually did come across the one where he stated his beliefs.

Are you of the Baha'i faith also or just have friends who are?

I have much respect and interest in the Baha'i faith...because of the friends who ARE....:)

just saw this video that really moved me.....
http://vimeo.com/2228238

with love,
soms

[Trinity]

just saw this video that really moved me.....

A touching video clip. Thank you.
That makes us to realize about what is important in this life.

Trinity

[sayso]

I have much respect and interest in the Baha'i faith...because of the friends who ARE....:)

with love,
soms

So of what faith are you, or are you of no particular faith?

[sunofmysoul]

So of what faith are you, or are you of no particular faith?

sayso... I am rather a soul in transition. Raised evangelical Christian.
I know longer subscibe to the label of christianity. I believe God to truly be found wherever love is found. I humbly follow the voice of Jesus as the way the truth and the Life...and believe in Loving God with all my heart and soul and mind...and loving my neighbor as myself...and even in loving my enemies...I believe Love to be the Key...but i know longer subscribe to exclusitivity, nor take pleasure in the thought of my own personal salvation, when there are so many lost in this world... I am presently learning about all other religions, and finding both beauty and love...and in most also some ugliness (just like Christianity) .

In the past year...i have had every preconceived notion and idea i previously held blown away. and for this....i am truly grateful.

hope this helps,

with love to all,
ys,
soms

[sayso]

sayso... I am rather a soul in transition. Raised evangelical Christian.
I know longer subscibe to the label of christianity. I believe God to truly be found wherever love is found. I humbly follow the voice of Jesus as the way the truth and the Life...and believe in Loving God with all my heart and soul and mind...and loving my neighbor as myself...and even in loving my enemies...I believe Love to be the Key...but i know longer subscribe to exclusitivity, nor take pleasure in the thought of my own personal salvation, when there are so many lost in this world... I am presently learning about all other religions, and finding both beauty and love...and in most also some ugliness (just like Christianity) .

In the past year...i have had every preconceived notion and idea i previously held blown away. and for this....i am truly grateful.

hope this helps,

with love to all,
ys,
soms

soms,

Thanks for explaining where you're at spiritually speaking. It will help me understand where you're coming from as you post. I appreciate that.

[Trinity]

More than fifteen years ago, I worked on a project with a pediatrician (a Baha'i). I was friend with him, and we planted a tree into a park, for peace, on the day of the earth. I think that during that year, it was a global project of the United Nations, if my memory is good. In my area the project was conducted by a group of Baha'i.

We had Jews, protestants, catholics and members of the Baha'i faith, with probably other people representing other groups that I forgot , and who participated to that ceremony either. Many dignitaries, politicians, citizens, children etc.

Even if we did not share the same beliefs, and because I was a municipal councilor, I helped them to succeed their project. I also gave a contract to the Jehovah Witnesses for the cleaning of all our offices (they were operating a company to clean offices and buildings). I always tried during my public life to not discriminated a person or a group because of my faith. In a city with around 99% of catholics I was criticized for this. :)

According to Jesus a good samaritan can be...

a good muslim
a good baha'i
a good hindu
a good catholic
a good protestant

anyone

Jews had believed that there was nothing good that could come from the Samaritans. They were mistaken. Jesus said that there was also good things from the outsiders. The samaritan is representing someone who is not part of our group. The man or the woman who is different than us.

Trinity

[bhuvana-mohan dasa]

Is this your faith? I used to have friends who belonged to this faith.

Not exactly, sayso, although i have some very dear Baha'i friends, and would offer that the "depiction" suggested by JohnD is one that appeared as characteristically and sadly des***ute of substance as anything which he has previously written, that i have ever read.

ys,

bmd.

[Scripturefocus]

It appears that the Bahais have been using the internet, especially apologetics sites, to get out their "gospel." Interestingly, however, they do not mention that there is much dissension in that Body. For instance:

http://bahai-library.com/newspapers/gnosis.talisman.html

Authoritarianism has become quite an issue in this cult.

Furthermore, I recognize two posting on this particular forum as posters on another apologetics forum. There seems to be a network of apologetics site posters that assist one another - even if they are not members of he same group.

Quite interesting.

[sunofmysoul]

It appears that the Bahais have been using the internet, especially apologetics sites, to get out their "gospel." Interestingly, however, they do not mention that there is much dissension in that Body. For instance:

http://bahai-library.com/newspapers/gnosis.talisman.html

Authoritarianism has become quite an issue in this cult.

Furthermore, I recognize two posting on this particular forum as posters on another apologetics forum. There seems to be a network of apologetics site posters that assist one another - even if they are not members of he same group.

Quite interesting.

while the article is interesting....(from 1997) i fail to see how this differs from the wide vast spectrum found in other religions such as Christianity. Meaning there are many, many sects of Christianity, with which if one associates with some...(take for instance Mormons...who believe themselves to be Christians) one would be taught from another sect...such as Southern Baptist, that to associate with the Mormons, would be to be associating with those who are against God...and they would not be welcomed in to the church...(if they maintained their differing beliefs...)
I have seen nothing but authoritarian views within Evangelical Christianity....
not to mention how churches split over a doctrine (interpreting the TRUTH in different ways ) and no longer associate with one another...nor call one another brothers or sisters...

so my long winded point...is this...
this article could have similarly been written about any religion...
imho...
and as for your observation....there are several of us here that have been on another discussion website....
the Baha'i, Hindu, Christian, Mormon, etc....and most of us are friends who rather like to discuss our differences...and similarities...
(it is not such a conspiracy....:cool::eek::D;))
with love,
soms

[bhuvana-mohan dasa]

As one of the "Hindu" people frequenting the other site to which sunofmysoul is probably alluding, i personally can attest to the veracity of her statement here. That there have been dissensions and splits from the parent body of the Baha'i religion, hardly distinguishes it from other Faiths (including, most likely, your own -whatever that may be)- in this respect.

ys,
bmd.

[Scripturefocus]

As one of the "Hindu" people frequenting the other site to which sunofmysoul is probably alluding, i personally can attest to the veracity of her statement here. That there have been dissensions and splits from the parent body of the Baha'i religion, hardly distinguishes it from other Faiths (including, most likely, your own -whatever that may be)- in this respect.

ys,
bmd.

Bhuvana is a skilled apologist for the ISKCON cult. Over on CARM he, along with Sunofmysoul and others, would interfere continuosly with any Christian effort to witness to or examine the faith of, Bahais. I see they do the same here. Sunofmysoul is currently studying with the Krishnas.

The Bahais are a dangerous cult, since they appeal to persons who believe they offer a higher way, a kinder "way" which makes all religions one - but in reality, Bahais have subsituted their Persian imposter, Baha'ullah, as a replacement for Jesus. This Baha called himself Lord of Hosts, Ancient of Days, and other delusional ***les that the Bahais generally don't want you to know about.

Beware of the Bahais, and if you have any questions about them, here is a good site to visit: http://muslimhope.com/Bahai.htm

[sunofmysoul]

Bhuvana is a skilled apologist for the ISKCON cult. Over on CARM he, along with Sunofmysoul and others, would interfere continuosly with any Christian effort to witness to or examine the faith of, Bahais. I see they do the same here. Sunofmysoul is currently studying with the Krishnas.

The Bahais are a dangerous cult, since they appeal to persons who believe they offer a higher way, a kinder "way" which makes all religions one - but in reality, Bahais have subsituted their Persian imposter, Baha'ullah, as a replacement for Jesus. This Baha called himself Lord of Hosts, Ancient of Days, and other delusional ***les that the Bahais generally don't want you to know about.

Beware of the Bahais, and if you have any questions about them, here is a good site to visit: http://muslimhope.com/Bahai.htm

talk about drive bys.......:D:cool::eek:

[bhuvana-mohan dasa]

There seems to be a network of apologetics site posters that assist one another - even if they are not members of he same group.

Quite interesting.

i think it's called "recognizing and honoring love and devotion to God wherever those qualities may be found- whatever form it takes, and wishing it well- while remaining chaste to one's own alignment."

ys,
bmd.

[asdf]

More than fifteen years ago, I worked on a project with a pediatrician (a Baha'i). I was friend with him, and we planted a tree into a park, for peace, on the day of the earth. I think that during that year, it was a global project of the United Nations, if my memory is good. In my area the project was conducted by a group of Baha'i.

We had Jews, protestants, catholics and members of the Baha'i faith, with probably other people representing other groups that I forgot , and who participated to that ceremony either. Many dignitaries, politicians, citizens, children etc.

Even if we did not share the same beliefs, and because I was a municipal councilor, I helped them to succeed their project. I also gave a contract to the Jehovah Witnesses for the cleaning of all our offices (they were operating a company to clean offices and buildings). I always tried during my public life to not discriminated a person or a group because of my faith. In a city with around 99% of catholics I was criticized for this. :)

Great post, Trinity! I definitely appreciated the thoughts.


According to Jesus a good samaritan can be...

a good muslim
a good baha'i
a good hindu
a good catholic
a good protestant

anyone

Jews had believed that there was nothing good that could come from the Samaritans. They were mistaken. Jesus said that there was also good things from the outsiders. The samaritan is representing someone who is not part of our group. The man or the woman who is different than us.

Trinity

I love it. I've come to see the same, and would now add several more to the list...

-a good atheist
-a good liberal
-a good gay or lesbian person

...and so on, all en***ies I never believed existed before.

[sunofmysoul]

Great post, Trinity! I definitely appreciated the thoughts.



I love it. I've come to see the same, and would now add several more to the list...

-a good atheist
-a good liberal
-a good gay or lesbian person

...and so on, all en***ies I never believed existed before.

:D:cool:utter coolness....

[Jill]

Yes, we are all sinners--but capable of a measure of kindness. The important thing here, I think, is that Jesus said it is not enough to be good or kind, we must follow Him.

Luke 18:18-23

Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery,' 'Do not murder,' 'Do not steal,' 'Do not bear false witness,' 'Honor your father and your mother.'"

And he said, "All these things I have kept from my youth."

So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

But when he heard this, he became very sorrowful, for he was very rich.

[CleoSquare]

Yes, we are all sinners--but capable of a measure of kindness. The important thing here, I think, is that Jesus said it is not enough to be good or kind, we must follow Him.

Luke 18:18-23

Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery,' 'Do not murder,' 'Do not steal,' 'Do not bear false witness,' 'Honor your father and your mother.'"

And he said, "All these things I have kept from my youth."

So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

But when he heard this, he became very sorrowful, for he was very rich.

As a Christian, I believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, but I do get confused by this passage as Jesus does not only tell the ruler to follow him- he tells him to sell all he has and distribute it to the poor and to follow him. If we are to use this as a proof text, I am not sure we can take Jesus' last words (follow me) without taking the first ones as a way to inherit eternal life.

[John T]

As a Christian, I believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, but I do get confused by this passage as Jesus does not only tell the ruler to follow him- he tells him to sell all he has and distribute it to the poor and to follow him. If we are to use this as a proof text, I am not sure we can take Jesus' last words (follow me) without taking the first ones as a way to inherit eternal life.
You forgot to look at the last verse, for it is the most important:
But when he heard this, he became very sorrowful, for he was very rich.

The riches were the hindering force to make him a follower of Jesus. That is not a universal demand, for Jesus had many rich followers: Joseph of Aramatheia, the tax collectors Matthew, and the short Zacheus who climbed a sycamore tree to see Jesus.

Since you are a therapist, and an abuse survivor, Perhaps this will be interesting to re read with those eyes, then apply them as self-therapy:
John 21:15
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
Can you hear the angst in Peter as he has that cathartic moment?

Does that not make Jesus the Father of ALL psychotherapy? You betcha! Can you imagine how Peter felt as he was gently guided to experience his colossal failures, then equally guided into a three-part restoration, matching his three-part failure?

To my mindset, that is a godly combination of Glasser and Gestalt to name the most prominent. Perhaps there are others, but they seem prominent.

I like your sig line, but also keep in mind that mercy does not come through the suspension of judgment. Jesus dealt with the sins of Peter thoroughly, and Peter understood the gravity of his decisions. Then realizing how bad he was, he thoroughly understood how merciful Jesus is.

That is why I often say to people, "Before you hear the Good News, you first have to hear the bad news."

[PostTribber]

http://www.dogtrainingsmartline.com/Animated%20Gifs/Large%20Gifs/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_clr.gif


.....baha-hahahahaha!

[Mesenja]

Bhuvana is a skilled apologist for the ISKCON cult. Over on CARM he,along with Sunofmysoul and others,would interfere continuously with any Christian effort to witness to or examine the faith of, Bahais.



I don't think that you do ScriptureFocus. Your words will condemn you.

[Mesenja]

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