Because they are not accountable. They are saved through the Atonement of Christ.Quote:
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
Billy--you believe infants are sinners.
Because they are not accountable. They are saved through the Atonement of Christ.Quote:
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
Billy--you believe infants are sinners.
For one, Billyray--infants do not break commandments. They do not even know how, or what a commandment is.Quote:
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Because they are not accountable. They are saved through the Atonement of Christ.
One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
Those who have reached accountability--sin.
Can a person including a child break a commandment and not know that they are breaking a commandment?Quote:
Is it a sin to break a commandment if you do not know that it is a commandment?
But yet--you have infants, who have never stole anything---as sinners.Quote:
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One cannot be a sinner unless they are accountable for sin.
I think, per LDS theology, one can "transgress" without actually sinning. If children are not held accountable, then it would seem that Christ's atonement is covering their "transgressions".
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For one, Billyray--infants do not break commandments. They do not even know how, or what a commandment is.
Those who have reached accountability--sin.
Again, Billyray--children, as infants, cannot break a commandment. They do not even know what a commandment is.Quote:
No, not in the case of infants. They have no concept of that idea whatsoever.Quote:
Is it a sin to break a commandment if you do not know that it is a commandment?
Again--can you give us an example of how an infant can sin--seeing that you believe they are sinners?
Can you break a commandment and not know that you are breaking a commandment?Quote:
The issue is that you are mixing up breaking a commandment and accountability. A child can break a commandment and thus commit a sin and yet may not be accountable because he did not know right from wrong.
Please share with us what commandment you believe that infants break.Quote:
Can you break a commandment and not know that you are breaking a commandment?
The issue is that you are mixing up breaking a commandment and accountability. A child can break a commandment and thus commit a sin and yet may not be accountable because he did not know right from wrong.
Yeah, I was going to mention that, as well. I understand being born with a "sin nature" (the potential to sin), but babies don't sin. I have seen some Christians claim that a baby crying, when it is hungry, is "sin", because it acts "selfishly"...which is perfectly ridiculous, IMO.
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Billyray--you have stated that infants are sinners. That is an accountability issue.
Libby--it's funny that you said that. I had a person relate that exact same thing to me--he described the baby kicking and crying, and attaching that action to sin.Quote:
Yeah, I was going to mention that, as well. I understand being born with a "sin nature" (the potential to sin), but babies don't sin. I have seen some Christians claim that a baby crying, when it is hungry, is "sin", because it acts "selfishly"...which is perfectly ridiculous, IMO.
Speak of the belief in absurdities...