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Originally Posted by Apologette View Post--The Persons of the Godhead are one in substance,......
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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---Could you explain for us how the faith alone believe that Christ has a resurrected body of flesh and bones--and God the Father does not--and they be one in substance? The ****ousious God?
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Billyray---Sure. The Father did not take on a body whereas the Son did.
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dberrie---And how does that make them "one in substance"?
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Billyray---Jesus was not created but of the same substance as the Father.
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dberrie----You have failed to show how Christ, having a body of flesh and bones--is of the same substance as the Father. Are you saying you believe the Father is of flesh and bones also?
Luke 24:39---King James Version (KJV)
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
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Billyray------The Father doesn't have a body of flesh and bone. The Son does. This has nothing to do with the fact that Jesus was uncreated or same substance as the Father. That was the main issue that they were discussing and arguing against. The heresy was that Jesus was created by the Father out of nothing and that Jesus was a creature rather that God incarnate.
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dberrie---But that only confirms that the Father and Son are not of the same substance.
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Billyray----The Father and the Son are uncreated eternally God which is exactly what the Bible teaches. The heresy was that Jesus was a created being of the Father.
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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---Anyone identifying a pattern here?
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Billyray
Sure that you are ignoring the original meaning of the quote. So tell me what you think they meant by what they said?
The original quote was by Apologette---The Persons of the Godhead are one in substance,.
You have tried to defend that---all along stating:
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Billyray---Sure. The Father did not take on a body whereas the Son did.
Again--could you explain how God the Father not having a body of flesh and bone is the same substance as the Son having a body of flesh and bone--the ****ousious(same substance) God?