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Hi Saxon.
What do you find in God giving His salvational grace to them that repent and are water baptized as a "Mormon tale"?
The Bible says that salvation is by grace through faith. It is not by works. It is a Mormon tale because there is no Bible support that works are involved.
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Saxon--when you state "Christianity"--are you referring to the man-made doctrines of the faith alone--or the real Christianity of the Biblical NT?
Real Christianity is faith alone in Christ alone. Your works salvation is in opposition to Ephesians 2:8 and 9.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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What don't you consider in repentance and water baptism, as being belief in Christ?
Obeying His commandments--as being faith in Christ?
Revelation 22:14----King James Version (KJV)
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Repentance comes after believing. Who would repent if they didn’t believe? Would a none believer get baptized? This is all done after a person believes. A none believer would be silly to do it if they didn’t believe. As I have pointed out to you all that a person needs to do in order to be saved by the grace of God is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Again, only a believer would obey his commands. To the unbeliever it is foolishness and they will not do what they consider foolishness. (See 1 Corinthians 1:18 and 1 Corinthians 2:14)
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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IOW--one is saved through dead faith?
James 2:26----King James Version (KJV)
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
What is “IOW”?
Don’t be silly, we have been conversing long enough that you know that I do not believe that anything is accomplished through dead faith. Either you are trying to annoy me or you are truly displaying an ignorance that can easily be corrected if you are willing to focus on what I have been telling you I believe. You don’t have to agree but it is only good manners to pay attention.
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Preaching a salvation without any acts of obedience to Jesus Christ is a dog that just ain't gonna hunt.
Preaching salvation is an act of obedience just as believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is an act of obedience. Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is the act of obedience that God wants before he saves you by his grace.
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Then salvational grace was granted to them that repented and were water baptized:
Acts 2:38---King James Version (KJV)
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
That defies the faith alone theology.
Grace was granted to them before they repented and were water baptized. Your ***ertion that one needs to do works in order to be saved defies Bible theology.