Interesting conversion story

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

So the Bible verses that claim that Jesus is a bridegroom at some future wedding--those verses aren't correct, in your opinion Jim?

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Not at all.. In that context the Church (the believers in Christ) are called the bride.. I have often told LDS people that I do believe in marriage in heaven as long as Jesus is the bridegroom and I am the bride.. :) IHS jim

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Originally Posted by James Banta

Not at all.. In that context the Church (the believers in Christ) are called the bride.. I have often told LDS people that I do believe in marriage in heaven as long as Jesus is the bridegroom and I am the bride.. :) IHS jim

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But "The Bible teaches that there's no such thing as marriage in heaven....." ????

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

But "The Bible teaches that there's no such thing as marriage in heaven....." ????

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Do you believe that the marriage super of the Lamb is the same ordinance that LDS practice in Temple marriage i.e. do you believe you will be married to Jesus just like you are temple married to your wife?

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Originally Posted by Billyray

Do you believe that the marriage super of the Lamb is the same ordinance that LDS practice in Temple marriage i.e. do you believe you will be married to Jesus just like you are temple married to your wife?

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The sealing ordinances of the LDS Temples are designed to seal all of mankind together--and Christ to them. That is the reason for the final marriage to the Lamb. By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

Eternal, heavenly marriage is a reality in the Biblical text.


Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)


7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The sealing ordinances of the LDS Temples are designed to seal all of mankind together--and Christ to them. That is the reason for the final marriage to the Lamb. By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

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So you will be married to Jesus and this is the exact same marriage you have with your wife?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The sealing ordinances of the LDS Temples are designed to seal all of mankind together--and Christ to them. That is the reason for the final marriage to the Lamb. By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

Eternal, heavenly marriage is a reality in the Biblical text.


Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)


7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

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Total BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why, or why do LDSinc. try this U-no-What on us?
Your temple cult ritual is nothing more than a Joseph Smith jr. trick to get under the bloomers of the female followers, both young and not so young. Don't try your 2013 trick of saying it was something more than that!

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

Eternal, heavenly marriage is a reality in the Biblical text.

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The Bible doesn't teach that humans will be eternally married such as you and your wife.

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

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So everyone in heaven will be temple married including couples who die without having a temple marriage?

Originally Posted by dberrie2000
By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

Posted by Billyray....
.So everyone in heaven will be temple married including couples who die without having a temple marriage?


I think dberrie200, might just go away after this out of the blue younder statement!

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---The sealing ordinances of the LDS Temples are designed to seal all of mankind together--and Christ to them. That is the reason for the final marriage to the Lamb. By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

Eternal, heavenly marriage is a reality in the Biblical text.


Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

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Originally Posted by RealFakeHair

Total BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Read your Bible, Hair. There will be an eternal marriage--and it will exist in heaven.

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Why, or why do LDSinc. try this U-no-What on us?
Your temple cult ritual is nothing more than a Joseph Smith jr. trick to get under the bloomers of the female followers, both young and not so young. Don't try your 2013 trick of saying it was something more than that!

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Kicking Joseph Smith between the legs won't help your cause. Your argument is with the Bible--it is the one that establishes eternal marriage in heaven.

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---The sealing ordinances of the LDS Temples are designed to seal all of mankind together--and Christ to them. That is the reason for the final marriage to the Lamb. By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

Eternal, heavenly marriage is a reality in the Biblical text.


Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

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Originally Posted by Billyray

So everyone in heaven will be temple married including couples who die without having a temple marriage?

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The scriptures show all will have an eternal marriage in heaven.

Billyray--you do acknowledge the existence of eternal marriage in heaven--right? Who else teaches that with the exception of Christ and the LDS?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The scriptures show all will have an eternal marriage in heaven.

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So my wife and I will be temple married just like you and your wife?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---The sealing ordinances of the LDS Temples are designed to seal all of mankind together--and Christ to them. That is the reason for the final marriage to the Lamb. By then--all the ordinances will be performed to seal mankind together, who has faith in Christ--there will be but one sealing ordinance to perform then--when we are married to the Lamb--sealed to Him eternally.

Eternal, heavenly marriage is a reality in the Biblical text.

Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

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Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post---So everyone in heaven will be temple married including couples who die without having a temple marriage?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post----The scriptures show all will have an eternal marriage in heaven.

Billyray--you do acknowledge the existence of eternal marriage in heaven--right? Who else teaches that with the exception of Christ and the LDS?

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Originally Posted by Billyray

So my wife and I will be temple married just like you and your wife?

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I'll leave that to you to decide--the scriptures have all within heaven sealed to Christ through an eternal marriage. That's eternal marriage in heaven.

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

I'll leave that to you to decide--the scriptures have all within heaven sealed to Christ through an eternal marriage. That's eternal marriage in heaven.

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So my wife and I will be temple married just like you and your wife?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---I'll leave that to you to decide--the scriptures have all within heaven sealed to Christ through an eternal marriage. That's eternal marriage in heaven.

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Originally Posted by Billyray

So my wife and I will be temple married just like you and your wife?

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Again--I'll leave that for you to decide. The Bible teaches eternal marriage in heaven:

Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Could you tell us if that is an eternal marriage that will exist in heaven?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

Again--I'll leave that for you to decide. The Bible teaches eternal marriage in heaven:

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But you are the one who brought this up, don't you know the answer?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post---Again--I'll leave that for you to decide. The Bible teaches eternal marriage in heaven:

Revelation 19:7-9----King James Version (KJV)

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Could you tell us if that is an eternal marriage that will exist in heaven?

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Originally Posted by Billyray

But you are the one who brought this up, don't you know the answer?

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The answer is---eternal marriage in heaven is taught in the Bible.

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The answer is---eternal marriage in heaven is taught in the Bible.

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So my wife and I will be temple married just like you and your wife?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The answer is---eternal marriage in heaven is taught in the Bible.

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Man, that must be some kind of Kool-aid you folks drink over at your local Ward. No dberrie, the Holy Bible doesn't teach eternal marriage between a man and his wife, or in the case of your prophets, and their wives.
Keep at it though, it just goes to show LDSinc. Is in fact a cult.

If you believe that God isn't willing and able to keep married people married even after they die, then "you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God." :)

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

If you believe that God isn't willing and able to keep married people married even after they die, then "you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God." :)

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Jeff can you show me anywhere in the NT church where temple marriage is mentioned like that taught in the LDS church?

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Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The Bible teaches eternal marriage in heaven:

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The Bible teaches that there will be a marriage supper of the Lamb where believers will be joined together with Christ IN HEAVEN.

Does the Bible teach anything about a man and his wife being temple married--like that taught in the LDS church--on earth anywhere in the NT?

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Originally Posted by Billyray

The Bible teaches that there will be a marriage supper of the Lamb where believers will be joined together with Christ IN HEAVEN.

Does the Bible teach anything about a man and his wife being temple married--like that taught in the LDS church--on earth anywhere in the NT?

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The books canonized in the NT were chosen partly as a way to share the basic good news of the gospel with the general public. Esoteric doctrines and rituals that were meant only for those who were more grown up in the gospel, and ready for advanced stuff, were left out of the NT.

So the answer is "no." But OTHER early Christian documents DO refer to such "secret" Christian practices as vicarious ordinances for dead people, and marriage ceremonies meant to last after death.

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

The books canonized in the NT were chosen partly as a way to share the basic good news of the gospel with the general public. Esoteric doctrines and rituals that were meant only for those who were more grown up in the gospel, and ready for advanced stuff, were left out of the NT.

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What books were left out of the NT?

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Originally Posted by Billyray

What books were left out of the NT?

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I didn't say "books." But some of the documents from early Christianity, such as epistles, are mentioned in Mormonism and Early Christianity. You should read it.

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

I didn't say "books." But some of the documents from early Christianity, such as epistles, are mentioned in Mormonism and Early Christianity. You should read it.

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Here is your post

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

The books canonized in the NT were chosen partly as a way to share the basic good news of the gospel with the general public.

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and you will notice that I didn't say that any BOOKs were LEFT OUT.

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

and you will notice that I didn't say that any BOOKs were LEFT OUT.

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Maybe not but that is inferred in your comments.. Have you read the Book of Enoch? Do you believe that angels (Evil angels) came to the earth and took human women, and by this all of the evil of the world we know today was born? I had been taught that all those angels that rejected the Plan of Jesus were never born? Can spirits father the children of human women? Are they creative in their nature? Is that LDS doctrine now? That angels came to human woman and impregnated them? If mormonism hasn't changed again then the teaching that we have to p*** though mortality to gain the power of eternal procreation is still it's doctrine them the Book of Enoch would be false.. Should such be "Left out of the Bible"? YES because it teaches error. IHS jim