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I'd like to know what Adam and Eve have to do with this thread topic?
As far as I can tell, the first person to inject the topic of the Fall into this thread was someone named Jim Banta, who ****ed in when I had asked Alan this question:
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They act, on average, like the average human being, and that causes you to think badly of them?
And Jim "answered" with this:
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If you really believed that wouldn't you agree that the heart of man is deceitful ABOVE ALL things and desperately wicked? Instead of the LDS doctrine that other than the ability to have children and experience physical death the fall had no effect of us? IHS jim
So perhaps you should ask Jim Banta what that has to do with the thread topic. :)
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And Phoenix, when Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden it made them mortal.
Correct. But to be precise, the Bible seems to imply that it was no longer having access to the fruit of the tree of immortality that made them mortal.
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No, they didn't die then and there for we do know that Adam lived many centuries but they were made spiritually dead, separated from God.
I agree, as does LDS doctrine.
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Also, Adam was over Eve, she was told to obey Adam by God, he took the fall for her, he should have been watching over her, she was his wife and wasn't it his *** to protect her?
That is an interesting idea you have there--that Adam took the "fall" for his wife. She was the guilty one, but he nobly accepted the responsibility for what she did. I have never thought of it quite that way before. Interesting.
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Do you not believe that Eve was punished more harshly then Adam? To have to be pregnant, go through the pain of child birth, far worse in my opinion then to have to be a farmer.
I agree with you. Reminds me of a joke I heard today, though. Maybe I will tell it later.
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And when you think about how the world is today, women work outside the home as well as keeping a home, bearing children and all the duties of being a wife. A woman's lot in life is very harsh. [/SIZE]
It definitely can be very harsh indeed.
Okay, here's the joke: It's often said that women have it worse than men because the pain of childbirth is worse than any pain a man could feel. But which pain is worse: A woman's childbirth pain, or a man's pain when he is kicked in the ___?
Answer: The man's pain. After all, a few years after having a baby, you will often hear a woman say she'd like to have another baby. But you will never, ever hear a man say he'd like to get kicked in the ___ again! :)