I tell myself not to sin, but myself never listen.
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Sir
Since I was kind of bored tonight, I thought I would take James Banta's conjecture (in red) and his issues with LDS repentance and add a little commentary with my questions to YOU, the non-LDS here:
Doesn't seem like a problem. If one is to repent of their sins they must feel a genuine sense of sorrow, an understanding of what they did that was an offense to God. To be healed from sickness one must first recognize they are sick.
What is wrong with this step according to you non-LDS?
Yes, we must confess our sins to God so He can forgive us. When LDS confess more grave sins (like adultry, as James knows about quite well) to the church leaders, it is not in order to receive any type of forgiveness since they have not the power to forgive. It is to receive their guidance and help in returning to the path of God and being an upstanding member of the church of God here on earth.
What is wrong with this step according to non-LDS?
If someone is to repent of adultry (James), then it makes perfect sense that true repentance requires that the person refrain from committing adultry again. When you repented of your adultry, James, did you quit doing it? Or are you of the opinion that one can simply ask for forgiveness of adultry on Friday and then go out and do it again on Sa****ay and then ask God for forgieness again in Sunday, only to go do it again on Monday?
That you claim "no one has ever abandoned sin" is a gross misrepresentation and misunderstanding on your part of the principle of repentance and forgiveness.
What is wrong with the idea of stopping the sin that is being repented of according to non-LDS?
When we repent, we need to correct the wrong. If I steal a bike from my neighbor, I am not truly repenting if I simply ask for God's forgiveness and then continue riding my newly ill-gotten bike in front of my neighbor's house.
Some sins cannot be restored, as James suggests, which is why we always need the atonement of Jesus. His atonement paid the price of our sins and it is through His atonement that the payment for the res***ution is made.
What is wrong with the principle of righting a wrong as part of our repentance process according to the non-LDS?
When one truly seeks reprentance, they do so with a spirit of wanting to follow God better, to become more like Him. That requires that we change aspects of our lifestyle in order to conform more to the path that God wants us to follow. If I repent of frequenting strip clubs, I am not truly repentant if I do not change my lifestyle and stop going to those strip clubs.
What is wrong with the principle of changing your lifestyle to be more righteous as part of the repentance process according to the non-LDS?
To quote Jesus of the Holy Bible, "don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing."
My sins are no man's business. God of the Holy Bible knows how many hairs are on my head, so I have nothing to hid. Wait, there was this one time while I was in Atlanta..........:cool:
Some Christians are my best friends.
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Sir
Okay....some Christians.
Obviously not 100% of any group will believe the exact same. Even Mormons. So when critics claim that "Mormons believe...", remember your statement that maybe SOME Mormons believe...
And my statement IS true. No matter how much a Christian believes his sin is affecting Christ's suffering, when they simply blame the "sin" for sinning and claim they themselves are actually perfectly blameless because they are "saved, that's where the true understanding of sin and repentance is diminished in their "gospel". That's my take.
jdjhere: As a courtesy, could you use the quote function when quoting posts? It is difficult to read through your personal formatting. :)
I believe 100% of what I believe in, but the other 0% is adding up to more than what I can handel.