Disagree. It is a choice. They can help it, by the power of God.
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TruthSeeker
****sexuality continues to be a hot topic in many forms of media. How is it viewed in the Christian sect? Some people say that they are born as a ****sexual. Do you agree with this view? Or, is it a choice? Many churches are welcoming and accepting ****sexuals. According to the Bible, ****sexuals will not enter into heaven. It seems God is casting judgment on them, even though they cannot help it. Do you agree or disagree?
TruthSeeker
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...unions_en.html
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ersons_en.html
It seems to me that the Church's stance is one that labels ****sexuality to be a type of disorder. It is much a disorder as perhaps as an alcoholic faces or perhaps obesity. The Church does not accept ****sexual acts, yet may take in the ****sexual in hopes that God will help them turn around. I have a problem with people who would say that God made them ****sexual, James tell us in chapter 1.14 that we are tempted when we are drawn away and trapped by our own evil desires and the verse prior that God tempts nobody. Hence, the ***ertion that a person says they are ****sexual, but are chaste and refrain from ****sexual acts has a certain problem in saying this in a social context. For one thing, if they are saying it like alcoholics at an AA meeting would be one thing... but we don't have much by way of an ****sexual Anonymous. While alcohol is a legal to drink, it is condemned socially to drink in excess and get behind the wheel and drive drunk. Many people can also get jailed for PI, public intoxication. But what of ****sexuality? Certain we have laws against sodomy on the books, but it is hard to enforce when people do it behind closed doors and consent to it. We have gay pride parades, but we don't have an alcoholics parade or an obesity parade. The ***ertion is taken by most to be a symbol of pride at being a ****sexual and not as a disease.
I therefore would reject any Catholic who says that they are ****sexual, yet are chaste. They can allude to the fact that they have lustful desires, but they should never claim to be "****sexual" as James clearly demonstrates in 1.13-14.
Not in danger yet, but the mixture is only a tool.
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Originally Posted by
Trinity
I disapprove the ****sexual life style but,...
...I do not mix religion with politics. This is a dangerous mixture.
For now, the ****sexuality is in the agenda of all churches. And the political road is becoming the instrument to ostracize those people from our society. If those persons are seen like citizens of second cl***, tell me what will happen, after, with the Muslims or the Hindus who are living among us.
The political road is not an instrument to ostracize the ****sexuals from our society, it is exactly opposite. The ****sexual interest groups are pushing themselves on our society and seeking to subvert our society. Case in point, the last two elections in California voted against gay marriage. The ****sexuals think this is uncons***utional, so they hope to appeal to the judicial system but find it presently difficult. They have in many local instances had field trips for elementary students for their marriages/civil unions, taught from books to elementary students promoting ****sexuality, and attempt to insert themselves into religion by playing the politics within denominations and exert pressures on the religious communities from politics in government. That is what their lobbyists do. To place the Christian community as the offender is simply an over-the-top ***essment. Let's face it, the media is in bed with ****sexuality as is Hollywood. What they present to the viewers is a skewed representation.
As Steve Taylor sang in "Meet the Press"
When the ratings point the camera's eye
They can state the facts while telling a lie.
I think the questions raised by you is not yet able to be staged. Going back to the Salem Witch trails is not possible in such a secular society that we live in today. I see more an attack on Christianity than the other way around. Of course, there are bad apples among us. But I do not think any Christian here, worth their salt, would advocate physical harm on the ****sexual. Such a person would be a professing Christian, and if they are unrepentant, certainly not in favor of our Lord. To better demonstrate how bad it is, I offer you this website:
http://www.gaycatholicforum.org/
And I want hear you tell me that there is no ***ault on Catholicism internally by such advocates!
If not homosexual, then?....
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Originally Posted by
Columcille
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...unions_en.html
I therefore would reject any Catholic who says that they are ****sexual, yet are chaste. They can allude to the fact that they have lustful desires, but they should never claim to be "****sexual" as James clearly demonstrates in 1.13-14.
Hi Columcille,
I'm new here, but wanted to ask you, what term would you find acceptable for someone who was celibate, Christian, and yet never had any sexual attraction to members of the opposite gender, and always have had sexual attraction exclusively to members of the same gender? Thanks for your thoughts!
A spirit? (I don't believe so.)
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Leslie
I think that ****sexuality is a spirit sent forth by the devil to confuse and destroy certain individuals.
That may be "an" explanation which resolves something in certain people, but you can be certain that a guy/gal who has struggled with or accepted ****sexuality since childhood, is not going to likely take that as a viable answer; no more than a 'heterosexual' would.
Ever heard anyone refer to the spirit of heterosexuality?
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I believe fully that a person who is battling this can be fully delivered from what they are experiencing and can live a perfectly heterosexual life. My God is that big.
Some people can be relegated to a particular sexual-orientation of choice; but the preponderance of evidence supports the likelihood that most people do not choose their sexual-orientation; and it cannot be struggled out of...etc. At absolute best or as a real option, many can choose to abstain from certain sexual activities (as a heterosexual person surely might).