Mormon Denials Proven to be Deception

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12-09-2013, 10:13 AM
Apologette

Mormon Denials Proven to be Deception

I found a very good video including scholarly references proving that the Mormon temple rites have been drastically changed over time. Many Mormons deny these changes, which is blatant deception. If there are any not familiar with the changes, I highly recommend this informative video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-r3eBf1rwY

Now I'm sure the Mormons here and elsewhere are embar***ed by the gruesome oaths Mormons used to promise in their temples - how they would die if they revealed any secrets. At the end of the video, the maker states that as far as is known these gruesome penalties weren't inflicted on apostates - however we should recall that the Danites did actively pursue "apostate" Mormons, and I'm not so sure that they didn't inflict the penalties. The Danites are an ongoing target of investigation.
12-09-2013, 10:17 AM
BigJulie

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Originally Posted by Apologette

I found a very good video including scholarly references proving that the Mormon temple rites have been drastically changed over time. Many Mormons deny these changes, which is blatant deception. If there are any not familiar with the changes, I highly recommend this informative video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-r3eBf1rwY

Now I'm sure the Mormons here and elsewhere are embar***ed by the gruesome oaths Mormons used to promise in their temples - how they would die if they revealed any secrets. At the end of the video, the maker states that as far as is known these gruesome penalties weren't inflicted on apostates - however we should recall that the Danites did actively pursue "apostate" Mormons, and I'm not so sure that they didn't inflict the penalties. The Danites are an ongoing target of investigation.

Wrong again Apollogette.
12-09-2013, 10:21 AM
Apologette

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Originally Posted by BigJulie

Wrong again Apollogette.

Prove it, and also learn to spell my posting name correctly.
12-09-2013, 11:39 AM
Apologette

I suggest that anybody who is being approached by Mormon missionaries review the Youtube video in the OP. You need to be informed!
12-09-2013, 11:43 AM
BigJulie

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Originally Posted by Apologette

I suggest that anybody who is being approached by Mormon missionaries review the Youtube video in the OP. You need to be informed!

They can watch it. But I also hope they would also look to other sources so they don't get a one sided view.

Do you know when people go into an area to denounce Mormonism, baptisms in that area actually go up because it makes people curious and they are willing to look at more than one little clip.
12-09-2013, 12:06 PM
nrajeffreturns

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Originally Posted by Apologette

I found a very good video including scholarly references proving that the Mormon temple rites have been drastically changed over time.

1. If true, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

2. Are you trying to accuse us LDS of not sticking with Joseph Smith's teachings?? Or of throwing him under the bus as soon as new teachings come from new prophets?
12-09-2013, 12:53 PM
Apologette

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

1. If true, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

2. Are you trying to accuse us LDS of not sticking with Joseph Smith's teachings?? Or of throwing him under the bus as soon as new teachings come from new prophets?

You've consistently lied Jeff about the temple rituals. Why should I even discuss things with a person who has done that?
12-09-2013, 03:55 PM
nrajeffreturns

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Originally Posted by Apologette

You've consistently lied Jeff about the temple rituals. Why should I even discuss things with a person who has done that?

YOU have consistently lied when you accused me of consistently lying. Okay, technically, this is the first time I recall you making this particular accusation against me, but hey, your average is 100% so far! That's pretty consistent, right?

I challenge you to quote even ONE lie from me regarding temple rituals. Put up or admit you falsely accused me, i.e. lied about me.
12-10-2013, 10:04 AM
Apologette

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Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

YOU have consistently lied when you accused me of consistently lying. Okay, technically, this is the first time I recall you making this particular accusation against me, but hey, your average is 100% so far! That's pretty consistent, right?

I challenge you to quote even ONE lie from me regarding temple rituals. Put up or admit you falsely accused me, i.e. lied about me.

Sorry, but you know very well that you've denied any "death oaths" in your temple. This video proves you were attempting to deceive people.
12-10-2013, 10:07 AM
Apologette

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Originally Posted by BigJulie

They can watch it. But I also hope they would also look to other sources so they don't get a one sided view.

Do you know when people go into an area to denounce Mormonism, baptisms in that area actually go up because it makes people curious and they are willing to look at more than one little clip.

Mormon baptism is invalid and bogus. Joe baptized Ollie and Ollie baptized Joe. They had no more authority to baptize than Ronald McDonald!
12-10-2013, 12:34 PM
nrajeffreturns

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Originally Posted by Apologette

Sorry,

Saying you're sorry isn't good enough. I want you to post quotes of me telling these alleged lies.

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but you know very well that you've denied any "death oaths" in your temple.

Hey, all the times I have been in the temple, I have never made an oath to kill anyone.
12-10-2013, 03:39 PM
Sir

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Originally Posted by Apologette

Prove it, and also learn to spell my posting name correctly.

LOL....

coming from the queen of calling the poster "theway" "nottheway".

Learn to spell, Carol!
12-10-2013, 03:41 PM
RealFakeHair

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Originally Posted by Sir

LOL....

coming from the queen of calling the poster "theway" "nottheway".

Learn to spell, Carol!

She's a queen, WOW!
12-11-2013, 01:56 PM
Apologette

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Originally Posted by RealFakeHair

She's a queen, WOW!

What an immature and vindictive person "Sir" is! What a cl***ic example of what Mormonism can do to a person!
12-11-2013, 02:23 PM
Sir

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Originally Posted by Apologette

What an immature and vindictive person "Sir" is! What a cl***ic example of what Mormonism can do to a person!

If vindictiveness and immaturity are the signs of a Mormon, you must be the president of the LDS church! :p

But we know you lash out, name call, and then run and hide behind the skirts of your fellow minions and the fake "ignore" list.

And, well, being 68, you sure don't show any signs of maturity or wisdom that should accompany that age.