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Hi Saxon.
Cite, please. Could you please give us a cite where I have claimed one is saved by works? My claim remains the same--one is saved by God's grace--and that grace goes to them that obey Him:
Matthew 7:19-21---King James Version (KJV)
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Every time that you deny that faith alone in Christ alone tells me that you believe that there is works involved with salvation. The bible is clear, not of works (See Ephesians 2:9)
Your Matthew quote doesn’t sound like salvation but they all missed it and are being cast into the fire.
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
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The scriptures state we are saved by God's grace--not faith, works, obedience, trust, belief, endurance--but by God's grace. And that grace goes to them that obey Him:
Revelation 22:14---King James Version (KJV)
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city
You are still strategically missing the whole quote. It says, “For by grace are ye saved through faith”. You seem to have the grace part down In Accordance With (IAW) your quote above. What you seem to miss is “through faith”. There are two parts to salvation, God’s and man’s. God loves us and wants to save us. All that God wants from man is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. If we, through faith believe in Christ we have obeyed God and he, by his grace, saves us. After we are saved, created in Christ Jesus, we are to do the works that God has ordained that we should do. Salvation that is not of works comes first, then the works God has ordained that we should do comes after salvation.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
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What is backwards is the belief we are saved through a faith without works.
Is this not a claim that you believe in salvation by works?
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The scriptures are plain--God gives His salvational grace to them that obey Him:
Acts 5:32---King James Version (KJV)
32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
See the answer to the second quote.
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Could you give us an example of God giving His salvational grace--as a personal reception of eternal life--to the disobedient?
See the answer to the second quote.
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Romans 2:5-11King James Version (KJV)
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Galatians 6:7-9King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
Could you explain for us what you consider "backwards" about that?
Your out of context use of the scripture that you have quoted.
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Acts 5:32---King James Version (KJV)
32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
And???
And??? And what? See the answer to the second quote.
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The faith alone preach that's a dead faith--a faith without works--that saves:
James 2:26----King James Version (KJV)
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Now I am supposed to ***ume that any time that faith is mentioned in the Bible that it is a dead faith?? That is only in you imagination.