Let's Be Realistic For A Bit
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Originally Posted by
oatmeal
God's providence towards us and in fact towards this earth is compiled in the very book you discount as being less than what is needed for our understanding of our behavior......
With all due respect, I know and believe there is more what I'll embrace as a human being, than merely what someone pulls/interprets from the Bible, and demands or insists I must believe or embrace. I don't rule-out what I've gotten from Scripture myself, I just don't believe that book has all the answers, nor do ANY of us likely have a perfect interpretation or understanding of what that book contains.
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Whether a man is born with a preponderance for ****sexual expression, or he is born, as was Cain, with murder in his heart, is well illustrated in this p***age from Ps. 51-"Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me."
Yep; we all have a LOT of 'humanness' to let God work on and work on ourselves.
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We have no problem condemning murder and sentencing a convicted murderer to receive punishment......
As is proper; and really in this society we don't really see many seeking to dehumanize even those who have committed 'murder'; I've heard worse things said about ****sexual people from Christians, than I've heard about murderers (almost consistently); to me, that is somewhat amazing.
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However, ****sexuallity has gained immense lat***ude and has been embraced pollitically; but the word of God does not change, God almighty calls ****sexuallity sin and forecasts the reserved punishment for those
that commit it.
At the very least, the "interpretation" of and "religion" about the Bible changes from place-to-place, and era-to-era; that need not be argued very much, to know it is true. (We do not put disobedient children to death, and divorce is no longer illegal; but there are MANY MORE examples.)
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Does that mean that God cannot, nor will not save ****sexuals?
Of course, Jesus surely hung on the Cross for ****sexual people as well; anyone who says otherwise is talking about a different "Christianity" than I was taught (which is VERY possible in this world).
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No, it does not mean that at all. He does tell us, however, Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Rom.6:12
Wise and prudent, indeed; but that isn't for YOU and every other joe-christian to enforce upon other human beings. Mind your own life/behavior, be a living example of what you believe; that is how you should likely witness in the vast majority of cases in this reality.
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****sexual behavior is driven by our lusts; it is thus acted upon by our lusts.
Perhaps; but not every person who is ****sexual, is that way because of some 'sin' they are committing. And just as many heterosexuals, many ****sexuals learn to control themselves and their p***ions.
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Lusts are very powerful; but through Christ Jesus we have victory over our lusts:)
If you are saying that Christians and religious people don't have to deal with being HORNY... then all I will do is chuckle and say:
Most human beings with healthy bodies (Christians included), have a sex-drive. The degree to which that is controlled is a matter of many factors; and specific sexual-appe***es are not necessarily chosen by an individual. That is, what turns YOU on as opposed to any other person, may certainly not be the same thing(s).