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I am attempting to show you what the bible actually says compared to what the Young Earther teachers tell us it says.
There are two theories, the young Earth folks and the Gap theorists. The Gap theory is interesting, but I lean towards the young earth.
I more or less dont try to tell people what the Text 'means", but rather in the beginning I just try to get people to open the Bible up to the story of Genesis and just stick to the text.
You should try to tell people what the Text means. So we can see what it is that you want us to see. It is much easier on your readers if you spill your guts the first time around so we don’t have to rehash it over and over trying to ring information out of you so we can carry on a decent conversation.
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Now when I say, "Genesis does not teach evolution..." lots of people that are against evolution will interrupt me and say, "Hah! you admit it!"
I am not going to say, "Hah! you admit it!", I am going to say, If the Bible doesn’t teach it, what are you going on about extra-biblical tripe for?
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But the point Im actually making to them is that while evolution is not clearly taught in the Bible, there is enough room within the words that are found in Genesis to allow for Evolution to be very true.
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Don’t change your mind, evolution is not taught in the Bible at all. There is not a word in the Bible that even hints that evolution is true.
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and I also point out to people that the teaching of Young Earth Creationism are NOT FOUND in the genesis Text at all !
There is more young earth in the Bible that is directly from the text compared to the nothing of evolution that isn’t in the text. You want us to read the text, I want you to believe the text.
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As I have already talked about, I attended an 8-week ORIGINS cl*** taught by the leading YEC teacher of our time, a Mr Ken Ham.
I listen to everything the guy had to say.
I heard all his teachings.
I went over all his material.
I became very up to date as far as what is the argument behind the Young Earth Creationist teachings.
So in other words.....There is nothing I need yet to see or read or hear that has not already been shown me, taught to me, or spoken to me from the best YEC teacher alive already!
Lots of people I run into in church or on church forums like this one, that believe in the teachings of the YEC teachers, always have this idea that "Alan needs to read this"...or "Alan you need to look at this website"...or "Alan you need to get right with god"..etc,etc,etc...
I don’t think that you need to get right with God, I think that you need to find out just what evolution teaches.
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All I can tell you is that I have done my homework...I have put in the time to study this issue, and I have already listened to the same things from far better speakers and teachers...
I find all the teachings of the YEC to be in error.
I find even the best Young Earth teachers to be in error.
and yet......
What, in your opinion, is the error?
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and yet i must point out one more thing I have learned over the years on this topic.
I have learned that every once in a while I run into a guy who at first does disagree with me, but has the ability to see past his gut feelings about what im saying, and is able to open the Bible fresh......fresh and free of all the YEC hype....
And have a moment of "clarity".....
They will see things anew.
They will be able to read the Genesis story with a new and deeper understanding and appreciation of it.
They soon come to the same conclusion that I have come to...and that is, that there is no anti-evolutionary arguments found in the Genesis account.
The two works might not say the same things the same way, but they don't actually disagree either.
When you arrive at a deeper understanding and it leads you away from God and scripture, you are digging the wrong hole and you will be buried in it. The Bible doesn't teach evolution because evolution is the corrupt idea from a corrupt mind.
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If you would like, we can go over the Genesis text, verse by verse, and see how what we are reading does not in and of itself disagree with science and evolution?....
Or we can talk about a few of the ideas taught in YEC and how they compare to what the Bible says?...
Or if you have a few verses that you think I need to address?
Just let me know..
You are the one that is trying to convince others, so it is up to you to do the convincing; just let me know.