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    stemelbow
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    Interesting question in light of mainstreamism. How could Jesus' person be uncreated if His person was not around before God created? Did Jesus' person become uncreated the very moment God conjured up the idea that He needed a Jesus (man/God) to save mankind?

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    James Banta
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    Quote Originally Posted by stemelbow View Post
    Interesting question in light of mainstreamism. How could Jesus' person be uncreated if His person was not around before God created? Did Jesus' person become uncreated the very moment God conjured up the idea that He needed a Jesus (man/God) to save mankind?

    love,
    stem
    John 1:1-2
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    The same was in the beginning with God.

    That seems to answer your question.. Jesus was with God and Jesus is God.. There was never a time when the Father "conjured up the idea that He needed a Jesus (man/God) to save mankind". God was always there and always knew what He was doing the whole time.. IHS jim

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    stemelbow
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    John 1:1-2
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    The same was in the beginning with God.

    That seems to answer your question.. Jesus was with God and Jesus is God.. There was never a time when the Father "conjured up the idea that He needed a Jesus (man/God) to save mankind". God was always there and always knew what He was doing the whole time.. IHS jim
    Your ***umptions that you have read into John address my question a little but not wholly. The p***age does not come close to answering my question as it is. So are you saying that there never was a time when Jesus' person was not? Was there a point when God was but one person?

    love,
    stem

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    James Banta
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    Quote Originally Posted by stemelbow View Post
    Your ***umptions that you have read into John address my question a little but not wholly. The p***age does not come close to answering my question as it is. So are you saying that there never was a time when Jesus' person was not? Was there a point when God was but one person?

    love,
    stem
    God has always been God he changes NOT.. He has always been as He is now.. He said so Himself:
    Mal 3:6
    For I am the LORD, I change not...

    Of course there are cultist that deny Him and His word... IHS jim

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    stemelbow
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    You didn't address my specific questions again, James. Please try again.

    love,
    stem

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    James Banta
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    Quote Originally Posted by stemelbow View Post
    You didn't address my specific questions again, James. Please try again.

    love,
    stem
    I believe I have, Sorry you can't seem to understand the answer. Go read it again... IHS jim

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