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  1. It's illegal.
  2. It's immoral.
  3. It leads to bad intelligence, corrupts good intelligence, and confessions stemmed from torture are inadmissible in court.
  4. It damages respect and rapport for the US abroad, both among allies and enemies.
  5. It puts our troops in greater danger of being tortured when they are captured as POWs.
  6. It damages our credibility to condemn torture when done by other regimes.
  7. It disrespects the humanity of all involved - the torturer, the victim, and the leadership and society that gives its approval.

Questions? Comments? Ideas for what should be done to repair the damage done by those in the US government who authorized torture?
Defining torture is subjective. We have cruel and unusual punishment laws on the books that were written when things like draw and quartering (pulling a guy apart by ropes and 4 horses) were around. So we invented humane ways of execution that were less painful. Then some one reads about cruel and unusual and the point of reference is the current humane way (long forgetting about buried alive with your head exposed in the desert waiting for the animals and insects to come around) and it gets labeled inhumane so it changes to a new relative humane. I just watched the Discovery Channel's Machines of Malice and I got to tell a little water boarding on 3 individuals it not so bad compare and see. Remember the Governments are set in place by God and does not bear the sword in vain. This is one of the hardest truths for me to get a grasp on in the Bible.

MacG