Originally Posted by Saxon View PostThose that did nothing got fired.One more time. Works has nothing to do with GETTING saved, Works do not and will not get you saved. Works are required after you are saved.
Quote Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
Required for what?
Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
Required to live a Christian Life. (See Ephesians 2:10) Do you think that we are just to sit around and wait for the sweet by and by???

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
I believe this post contains some very interesting components that beg to be discussed by Christians. I am referring to BIBLICAL discussions--not personal man-made doctrines or opinions.

First--the comment that one is not saved by works.

The scriptures agree--one is not saved by works--but by God's grace. Once one accepts that--the next question should follow--who receives of this grace? If what the Bible testifies to is true--those who obey Him:

Hebrews 5:9----King James Version (KJV)
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

And withholds that grace from those who do not obey Him:

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9----King James Version (KJV)
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Those two points defy faith alone theology--which preach a salvation through a faith without works.

James 2:26---King James Version (KJV)
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.