You're not appealing to the Bible, but your cultic misunderstanding of the p***age you favor in quoting...
You're not appealing to the Bible, but your cultic misunderstanding of the p***age you favor in quoting...
If what you say is true, then name all the gods and their relationship to each other and the escapades. Shouldn't be hard to do, since polytheist all over the world have done it. So, when can I expect this outline from your to support your claims of our polytheism? I won't hold my breath.
Marvin
Say what??If what you say is true, then name all the gods and their relationship to each other and the escapades. Shouldn't be hard to do, since polytheist all over the world have done it. So, when can I expect this outline from your to support your claims of our polytheism? I won't hold my breath.
Marvin
Mormonism historically teaches:
1. God wasn't always "god".
2. The Mormon god went through "eternal progression" to become "god".
2. He had a "god" before him.
4.Mormons are gonna become gods themselves.
Sure looks like "polytheism" to everyone but Mormons.
Why?If what you say is true, then name all the gods and their relationship to each other and the escapades. Shouldn't be hard to do, since polytheist all over the world have done it. So, when can I expect this outline from your to support your claims of our polytheism? I won't hold my breath.
Marvin
They do not exist.
What is the point?
You would be better off opening your Bible and studying the Scriptures that tell us
there is only one God.
You can use Google to find out what Scriptures to study and to view sites showing the Christian side of this issue so you can learn why there is only one God and why the mormon doctrine is in error.
Andy
Name all the gods and give a short history of their escapdes.
Marvin.
Because if we are polytheistic as you claim, then we have to name all the gods we believe in and have history for each of them. That is the way it is done in all the other polytheistic religions on this planet. So please list the gods and their histories.Why?
They do not exist.
What is the point?
You would be better off opening your Bible and studying the Scriptures that tell us
there is only one God.
You can use Google to find out what Scriptures to study and to view sites showing the Christian side of this issue so you can learn why there is only one God and why the mormon doctrine is in error.
Andy
Marvin
Marvin, why is admitting polytheism so hard for you? Vlad is also having a hard time with this same issue.
So you DO believe that Jesus IS THE TRINITY made manifest in the flesh, therefore whether a person says "Jesus made Satan" or "The Trinity made Satan" it means exactly the same thing?My beliefs are already posted in this thread.
Didn't-cha notice?! lol
http://www.waltermartin.com//forums/...3536#post33536
And how is that NOT modalism?
LOL. Now that's a "trick" question and you know it, Marvin.
Does Mormonism teach that "Elohim" HAD A GOD?
Yes.
Does Mormonism teach that Elohim has GODDESS WIVES?
Yes.
But I'll help you out. I've given granddaddy god the name of "Bubba".
You're merely being obstinate, Marvin.
---Really? You need to provide official doctrine that supports that one, Padre.
You guys usually go apoplectic and mock the Heavenly MOTHER--SINGULAR--doctrine, not mothers. So give us some evidence to support your wives teaching.
Provide scriptures to support your ***ertion. All you are doing is bloviating.LOL. Now that's a "trick" question and you know it, Marvin.
Does Mormonism teach that "Elohim" HAD A GOD?
Yes.
Does Mormonism teach that Elohim has GODDESS WIVES?
Yes.
But I'll help you out. I've given granddaddy god the name of "Bubba".
You're merely being obstinate, Marvin.
Marvin
PS. The scriptures need to name the Gods that you claim we believe in beyond the ones that we both believe in.
All Vlad wants to do here is look for some way of making fun of people that don't believe in Joseph Smith and his imaginary religion.. When it comes to really looking into what Mormonism teaches he has no interest in defending those teachings... Other than he like to argue I have no idea why Vlad bothers with any posting site.. Maybe he should go back to MADB where there is no resistance to "the gospel".. And if someone comes on there and starts asking tough questions they are asked to leave.. So he could go there and not have to deal with real issues.
Here on WM he can ask what he feels are the tough questions and it never asked to leave.. But there is a problem.. He is asked the tough questions here.. And soon those questions overwhelm him and he withdraws from discussion.. IHS jim
A) You feel made fun of?????All Vlad wants to do here is look for some way of making fun of people that don't believe in Joseph Smith and his imaginary religion.. When it comes to really looking into what Mormonism teaches he has no interest in defending those teachings... Other than he like to argue I have no idea why Vlad bothers with any posting site.. Maybe he should go back to MADB where there is no resistance to "the gospel".. And if someone comes on there and starts asking tough questions they are asked to leave.. So he could go there and not have to deal with real issues.
Here on WM he can ask what he feels are the tough questions and it never asked to leave.. But there is a problem.. He is asked the tough questions here.. And soon those questions overwhelm him and he withdraws from discussion.. IHS jim
B) I'm not here to 'make fun', but to help expose the bad logic, double-standards, and hypocrisy of those whose intent is to try and tear down another person's religion only to replace it with....in some cases (like Russ) who knows?
C) You really shouldn't think that just becasue I haven't addressed your 4th AoF you should not ***ume I am at all 'overwhelmed' by your questions.
D) I've never posted at MADB. I've read posts there, but do not post there.
Last edited by Vlad III; 10-04-2009 at 09:37 PM.
A) You feel made fun of?????
B) I'm not here to 'make fun', but to help expose the bad logic, double-standards, and hypocrisy of those whose intent is to try and tear down another person's religion only to replace it with....in some cases (like Russ) who knows?
C) You really shouldn't think that just becasue I haven't addressed your 4th AoF you should not ***ume I am at all 'overwhelmed' by your questions.
D) I've never posted at MADB. I've read posts there, but do not post there.
A. I see you trying... You failed..
B. Show me where I have had bad logic, held double standards, or showed any sign of hypocrisy.. You addressed this posting answer to one of mine so there must be something about it that conforms to this attack.. I have even told you to stay mormon.. being such is not the problem. The problem is in idolatry.. Joseph Smith taught idolatry in teaching that there are Gods and not just God..
C. I do ***ume that yes..
D. You should start.. There you won't find any resistance at all to your different gospel or your different Jesus...
IHS jim
Is this a denial that God the Father actually is the literal father of our spirits in a preexistent realm? Is this also a denial of LDS scripture to say that God's purpose is not to bring about the immortality and eternal life of man? Must we go in and define what the LDS church believes immortality and eternal life is and what the difference is between them? You denials of your own doctrine are ridiculous. We all know what the church teaches on these doctrines. Most of us were trained in mormon church meetings, Sunday school, and even seminary.. None of these issues are lies.. The only lie would be to deny that they are mormon doctrine.. IHS jim
LDS teach
God the Father's Father is a God
God the Father is a God
God the Son is a God
Holy Ghost is a God
You can become a God
Marvin, do you disagree with this?
Rolling on the floor laughing.
The thread is about getting some help with the LDS concept of spirit-children.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MormonDoctrinedotnet has examples of Mormon dodging too.
Is it a "condition?"
Is it a means of answering?
Is it a bird, a plane, a prophet of God?
P.S. How did you put it?
"Put up or shut up. Why is it so hard for you to provide the evidence?"
Last edited by Russ; 10-06-2009 at 06:57 PM.
Whether I agree or disagree has nothing to do with what I am asking.
If we are polytheistic, then show the evidence? Why is it so hard for you to provide the evidence? Are you hiding something?
Marvin
Stll not able to provide the evidence. Why is this such a hard thing do to? The statement was made and all I am asking is to provide the evidence? What are you hiding from?
Marvin
Rolling on the floor laughing.
The thread is about getting some help with the LDS concept of spirit-children.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MormonDoctrinedotnet has examples of Mormon dodging too.
Is it a "condition?"
Is it a means of answering?
Is it a bird, a plane, a prophet of God?
P.S. How did you put it?
"Put up or shut up. Why is it so hard for you to provide the evidence?"
Not hiding, Marvin. Just not going down Mormon rabbit trails. Not taking the bait. I want to know about spirit-children. Got answer?
How did you put it? "Put up or shut up?"
lol!
Still not able to support your ***ertion, I see. If there is evdience, then show it to me. Provide me with the list of gods, their names and relationships, and their escapades. This is what all other polytheistic religions have, so if you are going to support your ***ertion, you have to show the evidence.
Marvin