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    johnd
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    Default This just in...

    The theory of evolution is dead.



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    The theory of evolution is dead
    i find such posts as this a prime example of why christians do not make an impact for God.

    paul went into the temple or meeting place, i forget which, for 3 years to defend christianity and one can, by the examples we have in scriptures, see he did not resort to such ******** and flaming rhetoric

    all that does is harden the hearts of those who believe in that alternative theory and does nothing for the kingdom of God, not even plant a seed. christians need to be better informed and able to communicate God's truth in a manner that is conducive to His will and desire.

    the above quote doesn't even bring glory to God, but it does bring mockery and other negatives to Him and His followers.

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    Default A related story --

    A-bio-genesis is dead. A thesis pertaining to it
    (i.e., the generation of Life by means of random, natural processes)
    predicts a higher carbon isotope-ratio (i.e., the amount of carbon-13 compared to C-12) than what has been observed *
    (-Hugh Ross, whose PhD in Astro-physics was conferred by the Univ. of Toronto, Canada; he conducted 5 years of internship at the Cal. Ins***ute of Tech. -- he'll be on TBN-TV tonight & tomorrow afternoon).

    This Reductio Ad Absurdum/ Modus Tollens is polemic, yet it puts a pebble in the shoe, something about which to cogitate, what?
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    * -- I don't know the quan***y, but the average m*** of a carbon atom is 12.011,15 atomic m*** units (or grams per mole), compared to exactly 12 for C-12
    (-the Sargent Welch Scientific Company, Skokie, IL, publisher of the Chart of Elements).
    Last edited by Tee Ar @ FB; 05-20-2010 at 06:05 PM.

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    Evolutionsts even admit macro-evolution isn't even a good theory.

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    I dont defend evolution, rather I defend the idea that evolution is in agreement with the genesis text...

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    evolution has never existed, it is the true fairy tale
    magazine is still running, location as changed. contact us for the internet address

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    as I said, I do not defend the teachings, I just point out that they walk hand in hand with the bible, and there is no contradiction....

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    Where does the Bible say that God created an ape that evolved into a man?? Maybe the Book of Hezekiah!

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    alanmolstad
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    what came before the ape according to evolution?

    trace the line of evolution back....back...back....

    Trace evolution back to the very beginning...to the very building blocks of all life...
    Back to the place where we all started out at.

    Where do you end up?.....

    the answer is that you end up the very same place you end up at Genesis 3:19 (go look it up!)

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    Did God create or did chance luck out? What chance creates it instantaneously destroys. It is either God Created all things created or it was randome chance. I will stick with the Scripture.

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    Did God create or did chance luck out? What chance creates it instantaneously destroys. It is either God Created all things created or it was randome chance. I will stick with the Scripture.

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    ah yes, the old "Evolution= chance" argument....(I love it when this one is tossed at me...LOL)

    To see how this argument against evolution does not agree with the Bible, we will consider the story of Jonah and the Whale!



    In that story there is a great storm at sea.
    The men on the ship decide to draw lots to see who was at fault for the storm.
    So the men cast lots, and the lot falls onto Jonah.

    Now lets say that we were watching the casting of the lot, and it falling onto Jonah.

    If we were a scientist we would say that this was just "chance"
    We would not see any giant hand controlling the casting of the lot onto Jonah....

    so as far as we would know, this was 100% just dumb luck that it fell onto Jonah.

    However......at the same time....

    When I read this same story I dont see any "dumb luck" at all!
    There was nothing left to "chance" in this story
    This was 100% all totally controlled by the hand of God....


    Thus the argument against evolution saying that "Evolution = chance" is also a giant FAIL !

    Science cant prove God.
    Science cant test for God.
    So Science can never prove God.
    Thus when science looks at life on the earth, all it can see is "dumb luck and chance"

    But because we have faith we can see beyond the things that are seen with our eyes, and understand that God is always in full control of "Dumb luck and chance"

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    God is in full control!! Then it isn't evolution after all. There are three major theories of evolution and they all contradict each other.

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    God is always God....

    Im not saying that god stood back and left something else to do the work of creation.

    rather Im saying that evolution is clearly a tool of god's hands.

    Evolution needs to be respected by the christian...its like sunshine...its like rain....its like the wind that moves the trees..
    Its part of God's creation...its part of the way God made this universe...

    and...its in agreement with the Genesis story.

    There are no anti-evolution arguments in the genesis stroy.
    all the anti-evolution arguments are the result of "men's thinking"......

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    Saxon
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    believe what you want, but evolution is a completely bogus invention of man used to escape the reality of God.

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    alanmolstad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    believe what you want, but evolution is a completely bogus invention of man used to escape the reality of God.
    Again, I do not teach nor defend the teachings of Evolution.

    I just point out that they are in agreement with the Genesis story.

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    Point out the agreements that you find.

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    alanmolstad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    Point out the agreements that you find.
    Real ones...or the ones in my dreams?

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    Saxon
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    Don't be silly. The ones that you think are real.

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    According to science, the start of the universe was the Big Bang.
    All that we see around us in our universe had this one single starting point.
    Every star , every dead world like our moon, every earth-like planet we might see in the future, is made from stuff that came forth from the Big Bang.

    In the Bible this very same moment is talked about at Genesis 1:1 " In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth."
    The word "Heavens" has several meanings in the Bible and in different contexts, but of these many understandings of the word is the idea for the "Full canopy of the night sky" .........in other words all the stars and galaxies of the universe.

    So like what we find in science, the Bible also has the creation of the "heavens" as being the very first thing listed that God has made.



    But what about life?
    Is there agreement about where all life is from in both Science and in Genesis?......yes there is!


    Now according to Science all the life we see on the earth is just the natural result of change on the earth.
    That life is just the earth itself ....that Life is part of the Earth.
    In other words....animals and humans are just a part of the earth that has come to life....

    Is this all that different than what the Bible teaches in Genesis?.......Nope!

    "And God said, Let the earth bring forth gr***"
    "And the earth brought forth gr***"

    "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature"
    "And God made the beast of the earth"

    "And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree"
    "And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air"

    So what we see in the Genesis story is the clear fact that God made all life out of this very earth itself.
    Life, be it the life found in the plant world, or the life found in the animal kingdom, is all from this very same single source....and that source is the very ground of the earth itself!


    So there is complete agreement about the source of life in both Evolution and in Genesis!






    But what about humans?
    Are we also from the same source?




    yes we are!!!!!!!!!
    Last edited by alanmolstad; 07-31-2015 at 05:38 AM.

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    According to science, the start of the universe was the Big Bang.
    All that we see around us in our universe had this one single starting point.
    Every star , every dead world like our moon, every earth-like planet we might see in the future, is made from stuff that came forth from the Big Bang.

    In the Bible this very same moment is talked about at Genesis 1:1 " In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth."
    The word "Heavens" has several meanings in the Bible and in different contexts, but of these many understandings of the word is the idea for the "Full canopy of the night sky" .........in other words all the stars and galaxies of the universe.

    So like what we find in science, the Bible also has the creation of the "heavens" as being the very first thing listed that God has made.



    But what about life?
    Is there agreement about where all life is from in both Science and in Genesis?......yes there is!


    Now according to Science all the life we see on the earth is just the natural result of change on the earth.
    That life is just the earth itself ....that Life is part of the Earth.
    In other words....animals and humans are just a part of the earth that has come to life....

    Is this all that different than what the Bible teaches in Genesis?.......Nope!

    "And God said, Let the earth bring forth gr***"
    "And the earth brought forth gr***"
    "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature"
    "And God made the beast of the earth"

    "And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree"
    "And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air"

    So what we see in the Genesis story is the clear fact that God made all life out of this very earth itself.
    Life, be it the life found in the plant world, or the life found in the animal kingdom, is all from this very same single source....and that source is the very ground of the earth itself!


    So there is complete agreement about the source of life in both Evolution and in Genesis!
    The text does not indicate the “Big Bang Theory”. It is just a theory. The text does say that God is the creator of all things. There is nothing that indicates how he did it other than he spoke it into existence. (Hebrews 11:3) This also can mean that Jesus, the word of God, made the worlds out of nothing. There is no room for the big Bang Theory

    When you read the Bible, don’t read into it what is clearly not there. God made each item and living thing. There is no agreement between creation and evolution.

    Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.



    But what about humans?
    Are we also from the same source?


    yes we are!!!!!!!!!
    Genesis 2:7 states that the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. That sounds more like the direct creation of man by the very act of God creating man out of the dust of the Earth than a long process of evolution. Evolution is just a bogus idea to relieve man of the responsibility of answering to a Holy God.

    Genesis 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
    Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    Genesis 2:7 states that the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground,
    I believe the point I was making is that in the Bible we see that humans share a common source....a starting point with the animals, (like the great apes)

    That source is the very ground of the earth itself.

    According to the Text we are part of the Earth that has come to life.
    (as all all the other animals that we share this with)

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    Saxon
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    You are missing the whole point of the Bible. God created. creation and evolution are diametrically opposed. All lies have a bit of truth.

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    alanmolstad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon View Post
    You are missing the whole point of the Bible. God created. creation and evolution are diametrically opposed. All lies have a bit of truth.
    You are welcome to quote a verse that I might have missed?

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    Saxon
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    Do you even know what evolutionists believe? It isn't the Bible.

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    alanmolstad
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    When we die do we return to the ground that Evolution claims we came forth from?.

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