Quote Originally Posted by stemelbow View Post
A self-existent God is actually beyond the comprehension of anyone from what I've seen, not just LDS. Most a believer in a "self existent" God does not recognize that believing in such believes in a God who is the author of all evil, as logic would dictate. Its either, believing in a self-existent God requires upon such an one to be the source of all evil, or to believe in a self existent God is to throw logic and reason out the window. Either way, the question of the OP exposes the silliness of mainstreamism.

love,
stem
Loving stem, God has given all of us some degree of choice. Including angels. The kind of god you propose is nothing more than a computer programmer. That is a god who is not looking for love, but strictly for obedience to build up himself. Love does not come from a set program. The evil comes from the decisions of men and angels.

Death came about because of sin. Now one goofy thing here is that LDS believe that their god wanted Adam to sin. So on one hand you tell us you cannot believe in a self existent god because of sin and evil, yet you believe in a god who commanded Adam to sin. Sadly you are the one who accuses us of throwing all logic out the window.