On the Soul

[Columcille]

Many admit the existence of hell, but deny the eternity of its punishment. Conditionalists hold only a hypothetical immortality of the soul, and ***ert that after undergoing a certain amount of punishment, the souls of the wicked will be annihilated. Among the Gnostics the Valentinians held this doctrine, and later on also Arnobius, the Socinians, many Protestants both in the past and in our own times, especially of late (Edw. White, "Life in Christ", New York, 1877). The Universalists teach that in the end all the ****ed, at least all human souls, will attain bea***ude (apokatastasis ton panton, res***utio omnium, according to Origen). This was a tenet of the Origenists and the Misericordes of whom St. Augustine speaks (City of God XXI.18).
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07207a.htm

I have given the above quote for a specific purpose. You have stated that your view of the soul is "conditional unity." Since it is easy for people to mistake the term "conditional unity" with "Conditionalism," I thought perhaps you might want to comment on how the relation between the soul and body of those whose happen to reside in Hell, do you view their punishment as temporary or eternal? If it is temporal, does their soul cease to exist or do they enter into heaven or a particular paradise state?

[jade84116]

The Antichrist and the False Prophet are put in the lake of fire at the beginning of the millennium and are still alive 1100 years later when Satan is thrown into the lake of fire. This can only mean that souls are immortal and cannot be obliterated by the lake of fire.

[Columcille]

Originally Posted by jade84116

The Antichrist and the False Prophet are put in the lake of fire at the beginning of the millennium and are still alive 1100 years later when Satan is thrown into the lake of fire. This can only mean that souls are immortal and cannot be obliterated by the lake of fire.

From an ontological study of the self, self examination, there are a variety of views based on experience. Some of that experience is suggestive or taught, and in some cases manipulated. For example, hallucinations can occur from lack of nutrition. People see marages in the desert because they desire water; some smoke drugs, sniff paint, or use drugs in other various delivery methods to affect perception. What can be known is what Rene Discartes taught from Augustine, "I am if I am mistaken" to "I think therefore I exist." In the present sense, my existence of who I am has no relevance to ideas of "past lives." The idea of justice is so prevalent in every culture that acts of disruption are punished and acts of heroism recognized. Between virtue and vice, there seems to be a clear choice. This choice demands on an interpersonal level to take responsibility of one's actions in this life without the necessary supervision of police, parent, and others. Stealing something that belongs to an en***y as the government or business may not affect or seriously harm anybody, but getting away with it is no less an act which is against the moral code. The idea of God as the lawgiver and the righteous judge is most effective in taking personal responsibility. People who believe in Karma have a very subjective idea of the consequences attached to wrong decisions and as such leads to a theoretical discussion on reincarnation or similiar beliefs. As a Catholic, going to confession is one of the most satisfying experiences because advice from a third party who is interested in your spiritual health helps reconciliation. If a person does not confess their injury to another person, the small loss is never made up, even if anonymously all is returned with interest because the victim has not seem the perpetrator face to face to confront the issues of the loss.

[alanmolstad]

the words "soul" and Spirit can flip back and forth.

To me this just shows us that the two terms are interchangeable and mean about the very same thing.

[alanmolstad]

one of the things i think gets mixed up is the idea of a "soul".....and the human "mind"

They are not the same thing...