If John the Revelator & The Three Nephites are still alive, why was there a ‘Great Apostasy’?
Joseph Smith & Oliver Cowdery looked in Smith’s peepstone & got this ‘revelation’ in 1829:
1 AND the Lord said unto me: John, my beloved, what desirest thou? For if you shall ask what you will, it shall be granted unto you.
2 And I said unto him: Lord, give unto me power over death, that I may live and bring souls unto thee.
3 And the Lord said unto me: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, because thou desirest this thou shalt tarry until I come in my glory, and shalt prophesy before nations, kindreds, tongues and people.
4 And for this cause the Lord said unto Peter: If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? For he desired of me that he might bring souls unto me, but thou desiredst that thou mightest speedily come unto me in my kingdom.
5 I say unto thee, Peter, this was a good desire; but my beloved has desired that he might do more, or a greater work yet among men than what he has before done.
6 Yea, he has undertaken a greater work; therefore I will make him as flaming fire and a ministering angel; he shall minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation who dwell on the earth.
7 And I will make thee to minister for him and for thy brother James; and unto you three I will give this power and the keys of this ministry until I come.
8 Verily I say unto you, ye shall both have according to your desires, for ye both joy in that which ye have desired.
Here it says that John would NEVER DIE, and that he would ‘tarry’ until JESUS COMES IN HIS GLORY, so that John might do a ‘greater work’ among men. If this is true, then how could there be a Great Apostasy of Jesus Church? It says in verse 7 that John had the keys of the ministry until Jesus came back in his glory. So if John already had the keys, why would they need to be conferred upon Joseph Smith? Why the need for a restoration at all, if John was still on the earth and COULD NOT DIE?
Using the same ‘peepstone’, Smith looked into it and got the Book of Mormon where it describes the Three Nephites, who were three of the Apostles Jesus supposedly chose in America:
“And behold they will be among the Gentiles, and the Gentiles shall know them not. They will also be among the Jews, and the Jews shall know them not. And it shall come to pass, when the Lord seeth fit in his wisdom that they shall minister unto all the scattered tribes of Israel, and unto all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, and shall bring out of them unto Jesus many souls, that their desire may be fulfilled, and also because of the convincing power of God which is in them. And they are as the angels of God, and if they shall pray unto the Father in the name of Jesus they can show themselves unto whatsoever man it seemeth them good. Therefore, great and marvelous works shall be wrought by them, before the great and coming day when all people must surely stand before the judgment-seat of Christ; Yea even among the Gentiles shall there be a great and marvelous work wrought by them, before that judgment day.” (3 Nephi, 28)
Now Smith says that they were caught up to heaven, and when they came back they were changed into an ‘immortal state’. Some Mormons call this being ‘translated’. And what does it say about these men? That they will do ‘great and marvelous works’ and bring to Jesus ‘many souls’. When did they do this, if there was no Church on the earth until the time of Joseph Smith? Again we ask the question, why would there not be some kind of Church even here in America, if the three Nephites were here all along? If all of these Apostles who were floating around had the Priesthood, then why did THEY not confer it upon Smith? Again, why did they not keep Jesus Church alive? Were not these men just as worthy as anyone else to run the Church of Jesus Christ? In the light of these ‘revelations’ by Smith, one must abandon the idea of a Great Apostasy, for there were ‘authorized’ ministers of Jesus already on the earth, who were told by Jesus they would bring many souls to him. It is ludicrous to believe that with authorized representatives of Jesus on earth SINCE HIS RESSURECTION, that there would have been a great apostasy, given the fact that these men were immortal and could never die. Why then, was there a need for Smith at all?