What does it take for complete forgiveness?

[Saint Grogan]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

how many times does your Jesus require you to forgive your neighbor?

Everytime.

[Phoenix]

Then it would seem to me that there isn't any forgiveness to begin with.

Because if I make fun of your religious beliefs 491 times, but you only forgive me of that sin 490 times like the bible says you're required to do, then was I ever really forgiven, since in the end I end up unforgiven?

[alanmolstad]

I not really sure where you guys are going with this topic?....but I will try to add my own views to the mix.


When I forgive another person, i dont change them at all....
When i forgive you, I dont change the past, nor do i change you in the future.....nor do I take away your ability to sin against me again by forgiving you.

When i forgive you, what Im doing is surrendering my right to be angry at you.

Thus when I forgive you, you are free from the effects that my being angry at you might have caused you .