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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    You have it backward
    The believe in many gods is Pagan
    Jw's believe in many gods
    Jw's are therefore pagan

    mammals are cows
    mammals are goats
    there are many differnt animals that are mammals..

    IHS jim
    Depends on your definition of "pagan".

    I think TRiG was saying that to his understanding, belief in multiple gods is a necessary, but not sufficient, requirement to make one a pagan. You are saying that it is both necessary and sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGi View Post
    Are Christians also pagans?
    We would be if we believed in many Gods.. But unlike the JW or the Mormons we don't see Jesus as a created being. Nor do we see Him as a separate God from the Father or the Holy Spirit.. This confused me when I first came out of mormonism and God in his grace gave me and understanding through geometric space..

    The three dimensions being infinite must logically contains all points of space. Yet Hight is not Width, and neither are either of them Length.. Yet these three dimensions make up one infinite space.. I don't know if you can see the ****ogy but to my small brain it is a wonderful picture of the oneness of God in the weak mind of Jim.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdf View Post
    Depends on your definition of "pagan".

    I think TRiG was saying that to his understanding, belief in multiple gods is a necessary, but not sufficient, requirement to make one a pagan. You are saying that it is both necessary and sufficient.
    The worship of any God other than YHWH makes a person an unbeliever in the God of the Bible and therefore a Pagan.. That is the only definition that makes sense Biblically.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    The worship of any God other than YHWH makes a person an unbeliever in the God of the Bible and therefore a Pagan.. That is the only definition that makes sense Biblically.. IHS jim
    Like many words, 'pagan' has more than one meaning. There is no universally accepted definition of 'christian' by christians themselves.

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    James,

    Could you please tell me which definition of the word pagan you're using.

    TRiG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGi View Post
    Like many words, 'pagan' has more than one meaning. There is no universally accepted definition of 'Christian' by christians themselves.
    We don't agree.. I say a pagan is anyone that rejects YHWH as the one and only God.. A Christian is a person who accept Jesus as YHWH.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRiG View Post
    James,

    Could you please tell me which definition of the word pagan you're using.

    TRiG.
    Done and done go read it.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    We don't agree.. I say a pagan is anyone that rejects YHWH as the one and only God.. A Christian is a person who accept Jesus as YHWH.. IHS jim
    "We"? The fact is, there is no universally accepted definition of the word, even among those that fit your definition of "christian" - another word without a universally accepted definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGi View Post
    "We"? The fact is, there is no universally accepted definition of the word, even among those that fit your definition of "christian" - another word without a universally accepted definition.
    There is in the Church.. But you are right it was a name ***igned to disciples of JESUS by the Roman polytheists.. Today it has become a standard for those who recognize Jesus as God, Savior and King of the world.. IHS jim

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    The Jehovah's Witness cult is Freemasonic and pagan. The ancient heretic Arias' views of Jesus came from pagan concepts, not the biblical data. Charles Russell was a pagan and occultic Freemason, just like Joe Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGi View Post
    Like many words, 'pagan' has more than one meaning. There is no universally accepted definition of 'christian' by christians themselves.
    actually, there is the problem s everyone wants to go to heaven so they consider themselves Christian when they are not
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