Pagans believe in many Gods.
Witnesses believe in many Gods.
Therefore, Witnesses are Pagans.
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Cows are mammals.
Goats are mammals.
Therefore, goats are cows.
TRiG.
Pagans believe in many Gods.
Witnesses believe in many Gods.
Therefore, Witnesses are Pagans.
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Cows are mammals.
Goats are mammals.
Therefore, goats are cows.
TRiG.
I appreciate the fact you are no longer JW, Trig but the logical fallacy is in your illustration.
reread both carefully.
Cows are mammals.
Goats are mammals.
Therefore, goats and cows are mammals.
In keeping with the definition of mammals.
Pagans believe in many Gods.
Jehovah's Witnesses believe in many Gods.
Therefore, Witnesses are Pagans.
In keeping with the definition of Paganism.
Although polytheism would have been a better (more accurate) choice of words.
You are clearly very very confused.
Therefore pagans and JWs believe in many gods.
Just look at the parallelisms.
TRiG.
The JW's view of Jesus and God comes directly from the pagan Greek philosopher Plato, ie. the Monas (God) and the Duas (Jesus).
Because there is so much scholarship out there that demonstrates, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Christianity did not "evolve" out of a vacuum, but was developed from the kernels of Jewish religious thought found in the Old Testamant and inter-Testamental writings (much on which were discovered at the Dead Sea).
Because most liberals (I speak of liberal Christian theologians) are stuck in the arguments of the 19th century Germans liberal theologians. These theologians made ***ertions that have been refuted with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls (as mentioned above). Further, liberal Christians bring to the table the presupposition that Christianity was not a "child" of Judaism, but was some sort of cheap attempt at copying the pagan mystery religions. This claim is made in spite of clear evidence that many of these pagan mystery religions were copycats of Christianity, or contain legends that are as far removed from Christianity as modern humans are removed from the flea.
I've been participating on religious discussion boards for a while and I don't recall anyone ever saying that Christianity evolved from a vacuum.Because there is so much scholarship out there that demonstrates, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Christianity did not "evolve" out of a vacuum, but was developed from the kernels of Jewish religious thought found in the Old Testamant and inter-Testamental writings (much on which were discovered at the Dead Sea).
Because most liberals (I speak of liberal Christian theologians) are stuck in the arguments of the 19th century Germans liberal theologians. These theologians made ***ertions that have been refuted with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls (as mentioned above). Further, liberal Christians bring to the table the presupposition that Christianity was not a "child" of Judaism, but was some sort of cheap attempt at copying the pagan mystery religions. This claim is made in spite of clear evidence that many of these pagan mystery religions were copycats of Christianity, or contain legends that are as far removed from Christianity as modern humans are removed from the flea.
I think anyone familiar with Christianity knows that Jesus was, purportedly, Jewish.
I think many have noticed the simularities between Christianity and other, more ancient religions.
I'm not sure how you conclude from this that these folks are uneducated or liberals.
Is it possible that you and I run in different crowds?
Really. In the crowds I deal with there are people that deny Jesus ever existed.
Sadly, I have spoken with many people that seem to believe that just because there are similarities, that Christianity ripped these off those religions.
It's called 17 years of evangelism and apologetic work. I forgot something even more important...people that believe as you stated, are NOT Christians either.
I've noticed a tendency in religious people, not just Christians, to dismiss the questions and concerns of others.Is it possible that you and I run in different crowds?
Really. In the crowds I deal with there are people that deny Jesus ever existed.
Sadly, I have spoken with many people that seem to believe that just because there are similarities, that Christianity ripped these off those religions.
It's called 17 years of evangelism and apologetic work. I forgot something even more important...people that believe as you stated, are NOT Christians either.
Uneducated, liberal, and NOT Christians either? Could it be that you have that tendency?
That would be an incorrect ***umption on your part.
I have noticed the tendency of atheists, agnostics and skeptics to dismiss the questions of others as being uneducated, narrow-minded, and bigoted.
Last edited by xjw4evr; 09-12-2009 at 11:27 PM.
We would be if we believed in many Gods.. But unlike the JW or the Mormons we don't see Jesus as a created being. Nor do we see Him as a separate God from the Father or the Holy Spirit.. This confused me when I first came out of mormonism and God in his grace gave me and understanding through geometric space..
The three dimensions being infinite must logically contains all points of space. Yet Hight is not Width, and neither are either of them Length.. Yet these three dimensions make up one infinite space.. I don't know if you can see the ****ogy but to my small brain it is a wonderful picture of the oneness of God in the weak mind of Jim.. IHS jim
You have it backward
The believe in many gods is Pagan
Jw's believe in many gods
Jw's are therefore pagan
mammals are cows
mammals are goats
there are many differnt animals that are mammals..
IHS jim
Depends on your definition of "pagan".
I think TRiG was saying that to his understanding, belief in multiple gods is a necessary, but not sufficient, requirement to make one a pagan. You are saying that it is both necessary and sufficient.
The worship of any God other than YHWH makes a person an unbeliever in the God of the Bible and therefore a Pagan.. That is the only definition that makes sense Biblically.. IHS jim