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    Default Biblical Proof that it's impossible for God to have a body?

    Anyone got some Biblical Proof that it's impossible for God to have a body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Anyone got some Biblical Proof that it's impossible for God to have a body?

    There is what Solomon said about the Temple.. How it couldn't contain Him (1 Kings 8:27).. If God were not a Spirit how is it that the Temple that Solomon built not contain Him? Just one more evidence from the Bible that God is indeed Spirit.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    There is what Solomon said about the Temple.. How it couldn't contain Him (1 Kings 8:27).. If God were not a Spirit how is it that the Temple that Solomon built not contain Him?
    What if God is just really large, like the monster in "Cloverfield"? Solomon's temple couldn't contain that monster, either, so "temple can't contain" doesn't prove "no body."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    What if God is just really large, like the monster in "Cloverfield"? Solomon's temple couldn't contain that monster, either, so "temple can't contain" doesn't prove "no body."
    What if? Did you just say "What If"? Why is it you are ready to toss away what the Bible teaches about God and try to make up your own God based on your own "what ifs".. The Bible says He is Spirit.. Solomon said that that the Spirit that is God was bigger then His small temple continuing saying that even the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain Him.. And you answer is to say that you think it means that He is a monster.. Well maybe as you stand before Him to b judged by your works, a lifetime of failure to keep His statutes you will see Him as a monster..

    Those of us that are in Jesus will see Him as the loving Father He really wants to be.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    What if God is just really large, like the monster in "Cloverfield"? Solomon's temple couldn't contain that monster, either, so "temple can't contain" doesn't prove "no body."
    "1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, " IS:59

    He gotta be big for His arm to reach from the Kolob system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacG View Post
    "1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, " IS:59
    He gotta be big for His arm to reach from the Kolob system...
    Good one, Mac. So, does anyone have anything that would convince LDS people that it is impossible for God to be a spirit with a body? You know, like His Son is? Of course, if Trinitarianism is true, then you already believe that God has a body, since one of the 3 Persons that make up God, does indeed have a body which was shown to many people--according to the Bible.

    So maybe this thread is unnecessary, if you all already believe that God (at least one-third of what you believe to be God) has a body.

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    Maybe the whole issue is trivial, if it's just a matter of Trinitarians believing that 1/3 of God has a body, and LDS believing that 2/3 of God have bodies. What's the big deal about a mere fraction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Maybe the whole issue is trivial, if it's just a matter of Trinitarians believing that 1/3 of God has a body, and LDS believing that 2/3 of God have bodies. What's the big deal about a mere fraction?
    It has to do with knowing the true God and not the ravings of a false teacher.. A false teacher that taught a false God.. Holding a false God to be God is to deny eternal life to those that accept the false teaching:
    John 17:3
    And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

    If you deny the witness God gave of Himself you have turned to idols and as you turned to idols you turn away from eternal life.. That sounds pretty serious to me.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    It has to do with knowing the true God and not the ravings of a false teacher..
    But it's the BIBLE that says that two of the 3 Persons are so much alike that it's hard to distinguish between them. Is the Bible the ravings of a madman?

    THE BIBLE says that Jesus is like His Father in every way. Notice that it doesn't say that about the Holy Spirit. Hmmmm. Maybe there is some difference between The Holy Spirit, and the other two Persons. I wonder what that difference could be. Any guesses, Jim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    But it's the BIBLE that says that two of the 3 Persons are so much alike that it's hard to distinguish between them. Is the Bible the ravings of a madman?

    THE BIBLE says that Jesus is like His Father in every way. Notice that it doesn't say that about the Holy Spirit. Hmmmm. Maybe there is some difference between The Holy Spirit, and the other two Persons. I wonder what that difference could be. Any guesses, Jim?
    How one ever asked Jesus to show them the Holy Spirit.. Since He is God when you have seen Jesus (Who is God) you have also seen the Holy Spirit.. They are one in their BEING.. You are to into the physical here and not into the nature of the divine persons.. They are ALL alike in that nature.. God is Spirit, a spirit in invisible.. Jesus is NOT INVISIBLE.. He doesn't look like something that can't be seen by the eyes of flesh. He took on the same flesh that we walk in.. His nature reveals the Father as it reveals the Holy Spirit.. Jesus answered the question, He made it clear that He is the Mighty God, the everlasting Father.. Is there any dispute on that point? IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    ... Jesus is NOT INVISIBLE.. He doesn't look like something that can't be seen by the eyes of flesh. He took on the same flesh that we walk in.. His nature reveals the Father as it reveals the Holy Spirit.. Jesus answered the question, He made it clear that He is the Mighty God, the everlasting Father.. Is there any dispute on that point? IHS jim
    Ever heard the expression "Like Father, like Son?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Ever heard the expression "Like Father, like Son?"
    I have heard people say it normally about a criminal father so his son must be a criminal too. But try as I might I can't find this saying in the Bible.. Can you.. I am here to explain the problems of mormonism to mormons not to defend old sayings.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    I have heard people say it normally about a criminal father
    Are you calling Jesus' Father a criminal?

    so his son must be a criminal too.
    Are you calling Jesus a criminal? Why can't the expression "Like Father, like Son" be used as a reference to two GOOD people, to say that a Son is very good because He takes after His Father?

    But try as I might I can't find this saying in the Bible.. Can you..
    Yes I can, because I am familiar with the Bible, so I will help you out:

    "God's Son has all the brightness of God's own glory and is like him in every way."

    Hebrews 1:3 (Contemporary English Version)

    Like Father, like Son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Are you calling Jesus' Father a criminal?


    Are you calling Jesus a criminal? Why can't the expression "Like Father, like Son" be used as a reference to two GOOD people, to say that a Son is very good because He takes after His Father?


    Yes I can, because I am familiar with the Bible, so I will help you out:

    "God's Son has all the brightness of God's own glory and is like him in every way."

    Hebrews 1:3 (Contemporary English Version)

    Like Father, like Son.
    "And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" NASB

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacG View Post
    "And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" NASB
    He didn't understand.. I said just what you did.. I just tried to put it into terms that a child could understand and he jumped on one word instead of the meaning of the example.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Are you calling Jesus' Father a criminal?


    Are you calling Jesus a criminal? Why can't the expression "Like Father, like Son" be used as a reference to two GOOD people, to say that a Son is very good because He takes after His Father?


    Yes I can, because I am familiar with the Bible, so I will help you out:

    "God's Son has all the brightness of God's own glory and is like him in every way."

    Hebrews 1:3 (Contemporary English Version)

    Like Father, like Son.
    I guess English is NOT your primary language? Is YOUR father as ignorant as that sounds?
    NOBODY has called God a criminal and NOBODY has called Jesus Christa Criminal.

    AND OF COURSE you have never found that particular idiom in the Bible; it isn't there. . .you have to SPECULATE to make it appear to be there.

    Your so-called 'familiarity' with the Bible seems to be SADLY LACKING in the CONTEXT department.

    Is THAT w
    hy you chose such a mediocre translation of that PARTIAL P***AGE, COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT?

    Heb 1:1-4
    1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become as much better than the angels, as He has inherited a more excellent name than they.
    NASU


    Heb 1:3-4
    3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.
    ESV

    I checked at least a half-dozen OTHER good translations, and THEY ALL disagree with your mediocre translation's rendering.

    You must have looked pretty hard to find that poor translation. It doesn't fit the GREEK at all. In the Greek, it is literaly the 'character of his person,' NOT an exact ANYTHING!

    Aaah, but then if that is ALL you can come up with. . .

    STILL no 'like father, like son pretending that someone OTHER THAN YOURSELF thinks God the Father and Jesus are criminals. . .SUCH IGNORANCE!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post

    THE BIBLE says that Jesus is like His Father in every way.
    Did God the Father come to this earth and gain a body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    and LDS believing that 2/3 of God have bodies. ?
    LDS seriously believe this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacG View Post
    LDS seriously believe this?
    Yup, LDS believe that the Godhead consists of 3 Persons, and that 2 of those 3 have been resurrected and have immortal bodies that you could be allowed to see and embrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    Yup, LDS believe that the Godhead consists of 3 Persons, and that 2 of those 3 have been resurrected and have immortal bodies that you could be allowed to see and embrace.
    Why do you think that no other Christian church that I am aware of except the FLDS believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones and was a man on another planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
    Why do you think that no other Christian church that I am aware of except the FLDS believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones and was a man on another planet?
    I think the reason that mainstream Christianity currently doesn't believe in this doctrine, is that it abandoned it back when it was being influenced by pagan theology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knox View Post
    I think the reason that mainstream Christianity currently doesn't believe in this doctrine, is that it abandoned it back when it was being influenced by pagan theology.
    Because this would of happened long after the OT and the NT were written don't you think that there would be some mention in the Bible that God the Father had a body of flesh and bone and that he was a man that lived on another planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
    Why do you think that no other Christian church that I am aware of except the FLDS believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones and was a man on another planet?

    FLDS, like the other 150 or so lds religions is NOT a Christian church by ANY rational description. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRIST'S ORIGINAL CHURCH which has existed alive and well for about 2,000 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post

    FLDS, like the other 150 or so lds religions is NOT a Christian church by ANY rational description. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRIST'S ORIGINAL CHURCH which has existed alive and well for about 2,000 years now.
    If it was alive and well--then why the need for a Reformation--where numerous new denominations were created with a different theology?

    And no one has answered the question--does God have a resurrected body of flesh and bones?

    Luke 24:39---King James Version (KJV)
    39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dberrie2000 View Post
    And no one has answered the question--does God have a resurrected body of flesh and bones?

    .[/B]

    I have written many times on the two natures of Jesus.

    but as it's not what you want to hear...

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