The Thief

[Billyray]

Originally Posted by dberrie2000

The LDS believe that all will be given an opportunity to inherit eternal life, even though they might not had that opportunity here.

What does this have to do with the thief? The thief had faith and was saved. Why does he need a opportunity after death?

[dberrie2000]

Originally Posted by Billyray

What does this have to do with the thief? The thief had faith and was saved.

And what is the evidence that faith is independent of obedience to Christ?

Originally Posted by Billyray View Post---Abraham was justified by faith and not by works. James clearly teaches that faith without works is dead which means that if we do not have works then we do not have true faith.

Originally Posted by Billyray
Those who do not have lifesaving faith do not have works. Those who do have lifesaving faith do have works.

Billyray---Faith without works is dead. Thus there is dead faith and living faith. Those who have dead faith are not saved and do not have works. Those who have living faith (lifesaving faith) have true faith and are saved.

Do you define faith without works?