Originally Posted by dberrie2000
I didn't state they were the same--I stated they were connected in the scriptures.

Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
So then when it says born again in John 3 you realize that it is not speaking about water baptism?
You just changed the goalposts. Here is your statement:

Originally Posted by Billyray
But you realize that born of the spirit does not mean water baptism.
You just switched the topic from the spirit being connected to water baptism in the scriptures, to born again not meaning water baptism.

How that converts to born again not speaking about water baptism is anybody's guess.