Voting in the Deep South

[Sir]

Originally Posted by Apologette

Is that the best you got - just nasty ad homs? Well, I guess I've come not to expect much more.

If you've ever read anything, even slick Mormon bios, you'll note that one of the main reasons that Mormons came under fire was their block voting. They still do it today - which is why Mormons here and elsewhere do not support a true conservative, like Santorum, but a moderate/liberal like Romney. Everybody can see it, even FOX News!

Anybody interested in the political agenda of Mormonism, is invited to go here:

http://www.janishutchinson.com/agenda.html

And lest we all forget, Joe Smith had himself crowned King. Then he ran for President. Then he destroyed the Nauvoo Expositor that dared speak out against his polygamy. Sorry, Sir, but this was no conspiracy, this was historical evidence of Smith's quest to dominate the world: "Joseph Smith or the Sword."

Really? Pointing out that you are all about conspiracy theories cons***utes "nasty ad hominems" in your view?

Well, okay. If you must be a victim, be a victim.

By the way, thank you for coming back here. I have recently claimed that without Mormons, these forums would eventually die. Critics need us. And I noticed the recent complaints at CARM that LDS are not responding to the attacks. And now here you are, trolling for some action.

EDIT: Oh....I see you have been banned from CARM. Now I see why you have returned here. See? Critics need us! They feed off of the argument.

[jdjhere]

Libby said: "I doubt Harry Reid and other Democratic LDS (yes, there are quite a few) will be voting for Romney."


You are correct Libby, He is going for the OTHER LDS (according to CNN)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...icks-huntsman/

Top Dem picks Huntsman

Posted by CNN ***ociate Producer Gabriella Schwarz

Washington (CNN) – Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid ventured into the 2012presidential waiting game Tuesday, offering up his pick for the Republican presidential nomination.
"If I had a choice, I would favor Huntsman over Romney," Reid told reporters after a meeting on Capitol Hill. "But I don't have a choice in that race."

When asked if the country is ready for a Mormon president, the Nevada senator said they are not ready for Mitt Romney. Reid, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and Romney are all members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

CNN Again:
Kind of sad...

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-09/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

Reid apologizes for racial remarks about Obama during campaign.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid apologized Sa****ay for making racially insensitive remarks about Barack Obama during the presidential campaign.
Journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann reported the remarks in their new book, "Game Change," which is scheduled to be in bookstores Tuesday.
The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."
"He [Reid] was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' " Halperin and Heilemann say.

At least he didn't say Obama was "dark and loathsome."

1 Nephi 12:23 (Prophecy of Lamanites after Christ) ". . . became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations."

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/...statements.htm

Argue with CNN, not me.

[Libby]

Originally Posted by jdjhere

Libby said: "I doubt Harry Reid and other Democratic LDS (yes, there are quite a few) will be voting for Romney."


You are correct Libby, He is going for the OTHER LDS (according to CNN)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...icks-huntsman/

Top Dem picks Huntsman

Posted by CNN ***ociate Producer Gabriella Schwarz

Washington (CNN) – Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid ventured into the 2012presidential waiting game Tuesday, offering up his pick for the Republican presidential nomination.
"If I had a choice, I would favor Huntsman over Romney," Reid told reporters after a meeting on Capitol Hill. "But I don't have a choice in that race."

When asked if the country is ready for a Mormon president, the Nevada senator said they are not ready for Mitt Romney. Reid, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and Romney are all members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

CNN Again:
Kind of sad...

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-09/p..._s=PM:POLITICS

Reid apologizes for racial remarks about Obama during campaign.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid apologized Sa****ay for making racially insensitive remarks about Barack Obama during the presidential campaign.
Journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann reported the remarks in their new book, "Game Change," which is scheduled to be in bookstores Tuesday.
The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."
"He [Reid] was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama -- a 'light-skinned' African American 'with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' " Halperin and Heilemann say.

At least he didn't say Obama was "dark and loathsome."

1 Nephi 12:23 (Prophecy of Lamanites after Christ) ". . . became a dark, and loathsome, and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations."

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/...statements.htm

Argue with CNN, not me.

Did you actually read that article? He said, if he had a choice in the GOP nomination he would choose Huntsman over Romney...but, he doesn't have a choice in that race. In other words, he is solidly Democrat and will be voting for Obama.

"If I had a choice, I would favor Huntsman over Romney," Reid told reporters after a meeting on Capitol Hill. "But I don't have a choice in that race."

[Apologette]

Originally Posted by Libby

Did you actually read that article? He said, if he had a choice in the GOP nomination he would choose Huntsman over Romney...but, he doesn't have a choice in that race. In other words, he is solidly Democrat and will be voting for Obama.

One Mormon over another Mormon? Why not Santorum or Gingrich? Because they aren't Mormon? I'd say that's the reason.

I had a former Mormon friend who I led to Christ on her death bed (praise God!). She warned me about Romney, Hatch and Reed. She left the Republican party and registered as an independent due to the party's inclination to nominate ****tail moderates. Romney, Huntsman, Hatch, Reed, not exactly pillars of conseratism. And Reed is so despicable that one asks why the Mormon cult has supported somebody who is pro-abortion? Compromise for the sake of power, perhaps?

[jdjhere]

Libby- my point was what Apologette stated: "Why not Santorum or Gingrich?" (or Paul, for that matter?)

And yes, I DID read the whole article and it DOES say he doesn't have a choice right now. And we all know why- because he IS a Democrat (as you said), but I wonder what would happen if he DID have a choice? CAN HE vote Republican?? (this is actually a question for you, Libby). I thought what he said about Obama's skin color should NOT go unnoticed and that is why I included it. WHY even MAKE a comment of ANY kind like that?? Why not just say "He is a good candidate??" Since Reid is a Democrat he WILL vote his party and he only has ONE choice, and it happens to be a non-LDS black guy. Sorry, but after I posted the link above it just shows what the early LDS "prophets" taught and thought about the curse of Cain. It just makes me suspicious because of what happened in the early LDS church. I am NOT saying Harry Reid is prejudice, I am JUST saying he has ONE choice if he sticks with his party. Let the readers have their own opinions of Harry Reid AND of what the early LDS church taught about the mark of Cain. Here is the link again: http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/...statements.htm

[alanmolstad]

Santorum gets support from many Christians, as well as many Mormons , and many Catholics and other religions too because he is pro-life.

Its really on the social issues where Santorum has done well with religious people.

So I dont see this support for Santorum as being because of his Catholic faith....But rather the support for Santorum seems to be because of what his Catholic faith has caused him to speak out in support of...

namely the right to live for the youngest of us...

[Apologette]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

Santorum gets support from many Christians, as well as many Mormons , and many Catholics and other religions too because he is pro-life.

Its really on the social issues where Santorum has done well with religious people.

So I dont see this support for Santorum as being because of his Catholic faith....But rather the support for Santorum seems to be because of what his Catholic faith has caused him to speak out in support of...

namely the right to live for the youngest of us...

Obviously it's not for his (Santorum's) Catholic faith, but because of his stand on moral issues and conservative principles. Romney is a "carney," as a southerner I know called him - his pitch is selling himself - whatever you want to hear. In Santorum's case, Evangeicals have endorsed him, so it's not due to his Catholic religion that he has their support.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Apologette

Obviously it's not for his (Santorum's) Catholic faith, but because of his stand on moral issues and conservative principles. Romney is a "carney," ......

You know...the term "Carney" might be the most correct term to describe how a lot of Republicans think about Mitt.

Im sure we all still will support him against Obama....but we still view him as a bit of a huckster....

[alanmolstad]

the basic point the guy had when he started this topic is that Christians would not support with their vote a guy who is Catholic if they took their faith serious.


I forget, did the Mormons support Trump or Hillary in the last election?

[Libby]

Originally Posted by jdjhere

Libby- my point was what Apologette stated: "Why not Santorum or Gingrich?" (or Paul, for that matter?)

And yes, I DID read the whole article and it DOES say he doesn't have a choice right now. And we all know why- because he IS a Democrat (as you said), but I wonder what would happen if he DID have a choice? CAN HE vote Republican?? (this is actually a question for you, Libby). I thought what he said about Obama's skin color should NOT go unnoticed and that is why I included it. WHY even MAKE a comment of ANY kind like that?? Why not just say "He is a good candidate??" Since Reid is a Democrat he WILL vote his party and he only has ONE choice, and it happens to be a non-LDS black guy. Sorry, but after I posted the link above it just shows what the early LDS "prophets" taught and thought about the curse of Cain. It just makes me suspicious because of what happened in the early LDS church. I am NOT saying Harry Reid is prejudice, I am JUST saying he has ONE choice if he sticks with his party. Let the readers have their own opinions of Harry Reid AND of what the early LDS church taught about the mark of Cain. Here is the link again: http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/...statements.htm

Jd, of course, he has a choice. We always have a choice, when we enter the voting booth, alone. No one is going to know how we vote, so we can vote for whomever we want.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. If Harry Reid really WANTED TO vote for a Mormon, he most certainly could (and would, I have no doubt)...in the National election, if there is a Mormon running, which it looks like there will be.