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    dberrie2000
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    dberrie----Is this a condition of belief?


    Hebrews 3:14---King James Version (KJV)


    14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post---It is not a condition of faith but rather a result of those who are saved.
    dberrie--

    Billyray's theology: They endure to the end because they are saved.

    Biblical theology---they are made partakers with Christ because they endured to the end.


    Hebrews 6:4-8---King James Version (KJV)


    4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

    5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

    6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;
    seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

    7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

    8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
    Philippians 2:13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

    Ephesians 1
    11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,
    12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory.
    13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
    14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

    Romans 8
    30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

    1 John 2:19
    19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
    How are you using those scriptures to somehow annul the fact the scriptures state that God gives His grace to those who obey Him? That enduring to the end is a requirement of being partakers of Christ?

    Hebrews 3:14---King James Version (KJV)


    14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
    Last edited by dberrie2000; 05-25-2013 at 11:17 AM.

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