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    Novato
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    I appeal again to those of us who are still posting here, please stop and let the site die. I have been monitoring the average access and it is never more than a handful of viewers at any time.

    The main reason I used to post here was to defend the Lord’s Church against the unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed posts by the enemies of the Lord’s Gospel. All we were really doing was constantly recirculating the same discussion points that will never be resolved.

    Whenever we point to verses in the Holy Bible that support the LDS position we are accused of “cherry picking” verses. Which is pretty ludicrous since the “trinity theory” can only be slightly supported by a few “cherry picked” questionable verses from the New Testament.

    I know it is fun to torment the ill-informed EV posters, but we are doing more harm than good by indulging in this practice since our participation increases the Google rankings of the site. Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.

    Let the site die, our participation in these sites is the only thing that keeps them alive, and by participating we are actually ***isting satan attack the Lord’s Church.

    Regards,
    Novato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    I appeal again to those of us who are still posting here, please stop and let the site die. I have been monitoring the average access and it is never more than a handful of viewers at any time.

    The main reason I used to post here was to defend the Lord’s Church against the unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed posts by the enemies of the Lord’s Gospel. All we were really doing was constantly recirculating the same discussion points that will never be resolved.

    Whenever we point to verses in the Holy Bible that support the LDS position we are accused of “cherry picking” verses. Which is pretty ludicrous since the “trinity theory” can only be slightly supported by a few “cherry picked” questionable verses from the New Testament.

    I know it is fun to torment the ill-informed EV posters, but we are doing more harm than good by indulging in this practice since our participation increases the Google rankings of the site. Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.

    Let the site die, our participation in these sites is the only thing that keeps them alive, and by participating we are actually ***isting satan attack the Lord’s Church.

    Regards,
    Novato
    Last I knew the Apostle Paul was not a LDS, I wonder how you and your specialists would fare trying to torment him. Probably not much fun.

    “I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ .But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
    Galatians 1:6-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    I appeal again to those of us who are still posting here, please stop and let the site die. I have been monitoring the average access and it is never more than a handful of viewers at any time.

    The main reason I used to post here was to defend the Lord’s Church against the unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed posts by the enemies of the Lord’s Gospel. All we were really doing was constantly recirculating the same discussion points that will never be resolved.

    Whenever we point to verses in the Holy Bible that support the LDS position we are accused of “cherry picking” verses. Which is pretty ludicrous since the “trinity theory” can only be slightly supported by a few “cherry picked” questionable verses from the New Testament.

    I know it is fun to torment the ill-informed EV posters, but we are doing more harm than good by indulging in this practice since our participation increases the Google rankings of the site. Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.

    Let the site die, our participation in these sites is the only thing that keeps them alive, and by participating we are actually ***isting satan attack the Lord’s Church.

    Regards,
    Novato
    Greetings Novato,

    What are SEO specialists?

    MacG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    I appeal again to those of us who are still posting here, please stop and let the site die. I have been monitoring the average access and it is never more than a handful of viewers at any time.

    The main reason I used to post here was to defend the Lord’s Church against the unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed posts by the enemies of the Lord’s Gospel. All we were really doing was constantly recirculating the same discussion points that will never be resolved.

    Whenever we point to verses in the Holy Bible that support the LDS position we are accused of “cherry picking” verses. Which is pretty ludicrous since the “trinity theory” can only be slightly supported by a few “cherry picked” questionable verses from the New Testament.

    I know it is fun to torment the ill-informed EV posters, but we are doing more harm than good by indulging in this practice since our participation increases the Google rankings of the site. Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.

    Let the site die, our participation in these sites is the only thing that keeps them alive, and by participating we are actually ***isting satan attack the Lord’s Church.

    Regards,
    Novato
    Not one of the LDS posters have been able to explain simple matter as to why the LDS has changed the interpretation of Ezekiel 37:16-17 when God has provided it is verses 18-23.. Why make it about books when God has clearly shown that it is about the tribes of Israel? You also have no explained where the BofM Land are.. Are then is central and South America as some believe or are they in the Great Lakes area as other LDS believe.. And what about LDS priesthood. The Bible teaches that the Priesthood of Aaron is changes into the Priesthood of the Lord Jesus.. The Bible teaches that we have one High Priest who continues forever. And others that are kings and priests to the Most High God.. Like the works of the Law the priesthood of Aaron can't coexist with the Priesthood of Jesus. One is based on the works of the Law, the other on His grace through faith in Jesus.. The Holy Spirit tells us that salvation is either by works or it is by grace (Romans 11:6).. So keep your head planted firmly in the ground to avoid the truth of God's word, and while you are at it take a greater sin in trying to stop those that could hear the teaching of the word from doing so..

    The idea that there is more than one true God is what is ludicrous. It is blasphemous to hold that Jesus is not God, or that the Holy Spirit is not God.. It is blasphemous to teach that God the Father was once a mortal man like ourselves and earned His Godhood through obedience to Laws and Ordinances of a being He called His Father in heaven.. It is clear that God has been God from everlasting to everlasting. That He never became a God as Joseph Smith insisted He did. There is no reference in the Bible that tells us that God has a God, that He was ever mortal or that he has a tangible body.. This is all the invention of a man and has nothing to do with the truth given through the Holy Spirit. You are the one "cherry Picking" but instead of using those verses in the context of the whole Bile you want then used only in your private interpretation. Using obedience as a condition for grace when the Bible clearly teaches that salvation is Grace though faith (Eph 2:8-9) and if it is by grace then it isn't by works (Romans 11:6).

    In James it is said "faith without works is dead".. All Christians agree with that.. A living faith works. It cares for the poor, the orphan, the naked, and the hungry.. No where in all James is baptism spoken of as being the works of God.. There are two births a physical birth and a spiritual birth (John 3:6). Therefore the water of John 3:5 must be physical birth since spiritual birth come directly after it.. That and the word baptism is not used in the Nicodemus context of John 3 at all, but does appear in the next context of Jesus at the Jordan in John 3:22-36.. Again and again we are shown that it is by our faith that the grace unto salvation is made available. We are told the requirements for earning salvation is (Matthew 5:48).. None of these things are taught in mormonism.. The only parts of the Bible that are taught in mormonism are those that are removed from the Biblical context and made to say what they don't teach..

    I have been catcalled for telling people that my faith in Jesus is the whole reason that I am ***ured salvation and yet Jesus agrees with me in John 11:25-26 "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this? I guess the answer given by a mormon is NO.. I have eternal live right now because I do believe Jesus.. I became His Child.. I have never heard of a good father ever rejecting his children. As we become His children We receive His salvation forever..

    It is clear that it is mormonism that rejects the Bible and have created their own gospel, another gospel. that is no Gospel at all. Because they refuse to agree with God and His plan for our salvation and eternal life.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacG View Post
    Greetings Novato,

    What are SEO specialists?

    MacG
    This is the first evidence that the LDS church and or a few of it's mislead believers have an organized resistance against the truth about mormonism coming out in general release to the world.. Before this all there was was the disconnected denials of the truth about Smith's misdeeds, lies, his treason, and his sexual a p p e t i t e.. Who knows this Novato could be a leader of such a organized resistance that most if not all the little LDS automatons will fall right in line with his will.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    This is the first evidence that the LDS church and or a few of it's mislead believers have an organized resistance against the truth about mormonism coming out in general release to the world.. Before this all there was was the disconnected denials of the truth about Smith's misdeeds, lies, his treason, and his sexual a p p e t i t e.. Who knows this Novato could be a leader of such a organized resistance that most if not all the little LDS automatons will fall right in line with his will.. IHS jim
    Could it be that you're onto something there, Jim? The LDS actually are organized, and actually put up some resistance to attacks on them? Sounds farfetched, but it's possible, like the "second shooter" and "magic bullet" JFK murder theories....

    As for Novato, I think there is a decent chance he is right about it being better to boycott the site and let it die than to participate and help it survive. I haven't yet made up my mind, but I am thinking the merit of his suggestion over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns View Post
    Could it be that you're onto something there, Jim? The LDS actually are organized, and actually put up some resistance to attacks on them? Sounds farfetched, but it's possible, like the "second shooter" and "magic bullet" JFK murder theories....

    As for Novato, I think there is a decent chance he is right about it being better to boycott the site and let it die than to participate and help it survive. I haven't yet made up my mind, but I am thinking the merit of his suggestion over.
    Jeff, I would hate to see you go as our discourses tend to be mutually respectful, and since it is doubtful that Novato will respond as he is begging you all to drop off, will you answer the question what does SEO stand for?

    Thanks,

    MacG

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacG View Post
    Greetings Novato,

    What are SEO specialists?

    MacG
    I've no idea, but I surmised that, given the context, SEO meant something like "Search Engine Organizer" or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir View Post
    I've no idea, but I surmised that, given the context, SEO meant something like "Search Engine Organizer" or something like that.
    Just asked Google:

    SEO = Search Engine Optimizer

    So I was pretty darn close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir View Post
    Just asked Google:

    SEO = Search Engine Optimizer

    So I was pretty darn close.
    Thank you Sir.

    Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.
    Is he saying that TCJCLDS are optimizing to minimize WM results? How would they optimize web search results for others? Googled Walter Martin and it is first for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns View Post
    As for Novato, I think there is a decent chance he is right about it being better to boycott the site and let it die than to participate and help it survive.
    Jeff you are free to leave if you so choose but the problems with Mormonism will not go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns View Post
    Could it be that you're onto something there, Jim? The LDS actually are organized, and actually put up some resistance to attacks on them? Sounds farfetched, but it's possible, like the "second shooter" and "magic bullet" JFK murder theories....

    As for Novato, I think there is a decent chance he is right about it being better to boycott the site and let it die than to participate and help it survive. I haven't yet made up my mind, but I am thinking the merit of his suggestion over.

    Then I will say goodbye.. Stop in and see how we are all laying here dead when you are gone.. While I won't say the volume of posts will be the same, the Christians here will continue to post to each other about our new discoveries of the failings of mormonism, both historic and contemporary, as well as lifting each other in prayer as we grow in our faith through the tribulations we will have in this life..

    Jeff if you ever have a need of prayer, or just need to talk, you can come to any of us and we will help you all we can.. So if you have decided to go, Vaya con Dios.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacG View Post
    Greetings Novato,

    What are SEO specialists?

    MacG
    Hi MacG

    Before dear James starts a rumour that there is a conspiracy of “organised resistance” by LDS members on this SOE issue I feel that there is a need to explain my comment on SOE more completely. This will be my last post on this Board, unless someone wants to know more on this issue.

    SEO stands for “Search Engine Optimisation”. One cannot downgrade a website, using this technology; one can only use it to enhance a particular range of websites.

    Search engines like Google, Bing and, Yahoo use “web spiders” to interrogate websites on metatags (key words), related links both quan***y and depth, access limitations, number of related websites quan***y and depth. They use complex, continually changing, algorithms to examine and define that information to rank websites on their suitability for casual inquirers.

    In order to effectively optimise ones websites you need to have experts continually examining the current algorithms being used by the Search Engines. This can be quite expensive for a corporation. Fortunately we have many, highly qualified in Internet Technology, Church members who volunteer to do this.

    The next ranking level is based on “clicks” to websites that appear on the “ranking list”, that is why I have appealed to LDS posters not to post to this anti-LDS site.

    Very few people would type into a Search Engine, whilst investigating the Lord’s Church, “Walter Martin” they would be much more likely to type in “Mormon”, LDS”, “Joseph Smith”, “Brigham Young”, or polygamy.

    So what our SEO experts do is optimise the numerous LDS official, and approved unofficial websites like FAIR, to be optimised for these “keyword searches”.

    This increases the “clicks” and promotes our sites ahead of the anti-LDS sites.

    If you want to test it, type into Google the word “Mormon” and see what ranking Walter Martin or CARM has?

    I do hope this explains to all there is no “conspiracy” only the use of technology.

    Regards,

    Novato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    Hi MacG

    Before dear James starts a rumour that there is a conspiracy of “organised resistance” by LDS members on this SOE issue I feel that there is a need to explain my comment on SOE more completely. This will be my last post on this Board, unless someone wants to know more on this issue.

    SEO stands for “Search Engine Optimisation”. One cannot downgrade a website, using this technology; one can only use it to enhance a particular range of websites.

    Search engines like Google, Bing and, Yahoo use “web spiders” to interrogate websites on metatags (key words), related links both quan***y and depth, access limitations, number of related websites quan***y and depth. They use complex, continually changing, algorithms to examine and define that information to rank websites on their suitability for casual inquirers.

    In order to effectively optimise ones websites you need to have experts continually examining the current algorithms being used by the Search Engines. This can be quite expensive for a corporation. Fortunately we have many, highly qualified in Internet Technology, Church members who volunteer to do this.

    The next ranking level is based on “clicks” to websites that appear on the “ranking list”, that is why I have appealed to LDS posters not to post to this anti-LDS site.

    Very few people would type into a Search Engine, whilst investigating the Lord’s Church, “Walter Martin” they would be much more likely to type in “Mormon”, LDS”, “Joseph Smith”, “Brigham Young”, or polygamy.

    So what our SEO experts do is optimise the numerous LDS official, and approved unofficial websites like FAIR, to be optimised for these “keyword searches”.

    This increases the “clicks” and promotes our sites ahead of the anti-LDS sites.

    If you want to test it, type into Google the word “Mormon” and see what ranking Walter Martin or CARM has?

    I do hope this explains to all there is no “conspiracy” only the use of technology.

    Regards,

    Novato
    Thank you for making this clear.. I was unaware that the LDS would be so concerned about the "antis" that they would take the time to do all this WORK to try to show how little sites like this and others mean.. That's on most of the people that have come to WM have come directly here without using a search engine.. That how I came to be a member here.. The same goes for the other "anti" site I have posted on..

    It is strange that CC has been brought up so much in the past as a site that die due to the lack of LDS input.. Here on WM it is a rare instance that a posters gets banned. Not that it hasn't happened but only to the most noxious of posters (Richard).. Since you can't bring yourself to act like him,and you therefore can't get banned from WM you fall back to organizing a boycott of the site.. You and your comments are welcome here but like any one person they are not required.. The Christians here will still need to learn from each other the best way to lift the Jesus of the Bible to those of you that reject Him.. We can pray for each other, we can offer our support to each other in times of distress. We can share with each other our newly found evidence, even if it isn't new to us.. WE can also offer those who have recently come out of mormonism a place to express their rage for be lied to for years and years.. Whether you and all your friends boycott this site there is a ministry here for those of us that know the unique and unbiblical teachings of mormonism and we will fulfill the call into that ministry.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns View Post
    Could it be that you're onto something there, Jim? The LDS actually are organized, and actually put up some resistance to attacks on them? Sounds farfetched, but it's possible, like the "second shooter" and "magic bullet" JFK murder theories....

    As for Novato, I think there is a decent chance he is right about it being better to boycott the site and let it die than to participate and help it survive. I haven't yet made up my mind, but I am thinking the merit of his suggestion over.
    By all means leave if that what you feel is best for you.. It puzzles me that you or any LDS would hold that as the proper action that should be taken.. Do you believe that only the Christian that post here have ever read your posts? It is though my faith in the power of the Holy Spirit that He doesn't allow His word to go forth void.. I believe many see my posts and I try therefore to make then as factual as I can.

    The LDS are the only religion I have ever heard of that have made an attack of other religions part of their scripture.. This is of course done in JSH 19. Oh but you can say that these aren't Smith's words but those of Jesus.. Jesus told us that everything EVERYTHING needs to be established by two or three witnesses and yet this Vision is taken for truth on the testimony of one man.. So you have an unwitnessed attack on the Christian Church built right into your foundational church teachings. Did Moses dictate to the children of Israel without a witness to his calling?

    Exodus 24:9-10
    Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
    And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.


    Was Smith prophetic gift established before the world in the same way Moses' gift was so established? NO! Even the testimony of the three witnesses was accomplished with spiritual eyes and not with their natural eyes.. In a memorandum given by John H. Gilbert, Esq. (the typesetter of the original BofM) on Sept. 8th, 1892, in Palmyra, N.Y. he asked Martin Harris "Martin, did you see those plates with your naked eyes?" Martin looked down for an instant, raised his eyes up, and said, "No, I saw them with a spiritual eye." Is that the same thing as what the Bible tells us the seventy of the Elders of Israel experienced on Sinai? Doesn't sound like the same thing at all!

    As for ignoring the questioning of your faith as Novato is calling you to do; The Holy Spirit through Peter makes a decidedly different call.

    1 Peter 3:15
    But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear

    By all means heed the call of a man and ignore the commandment of God.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    Hi MacG

    Before dear James starts a rumour that there is a conspiracy of “organised resistance” by LDS members on this SOE issue I feel that there is a need to explain my comment on SOE more completely. This will be my last post on this Board, unless someone wants to know more on this issue.

    SEO stands for “Search Engine Optimisation”. One cannot downgrade a website, using this technology; one can only use it to enhance a particular range of websites.

    Search engines like Google, Bing and, Yahoo use “web spiders” to interrogate websites on metatags (key words), related links both quan***y and depth, access limitations, number of related websites quan***y and depth. They use complex, continually changing, algorithms to examine and define that information to rank websites on their suitability for casual inquirers.

    In order to effectively optimise ones websites you need to have experts continually examining the current algorithms being used by the Search Engines. This can be quite expensive for a corporation. Fortunately we have many, highly qualified in Internet Technology, Church members who volunteer to do this.

    The next ranking level is based on “clicks” to websites that appear on the “ranking list”, that is why I have appealed to LDS posters not to post to this anti-LDS site.

    Very few people would type into a Search Engine, whilst investigating the Lord’s Church, “Walter Martin” they would be much more likely to type in “Mormon”, LDS”, “Joseph Smith”, “Brigham Young”, or polygamy.

    So what our SEO experts do is optimise the numerous LDS official, and approved unofficial websites like FAIR, to be optimised for these “keyword searches”.

    This increases the “clicks” and promotes our sites ahead of the anti-LDS sites.

    If you want to test it, type into Google the word “Mormon” and see what ranking Walter Martin or CARM has?

    I do hope this explains to all there is no “conspiracy” only the use of technology.

    Regards,

    Novato
    Thank you for the courtesy of your reply. Very informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    I appeal again to those of us who are still posting here, please stop and let the site die. I have been monitoring the average access and it is never more than a handful of viewers at any time.

    The main reason I used to post here was to defend the Lord’s Church against the unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed posts by the enemies of the Lord’s Gospel. All we were really doing was constantly recirculating the same discussion points that will never be resolved.

    Whenever we point to verses in the Holy Bible that support the LDS position we are accused of “cherry picking” verses. Which is pretty ludicrous since the “trinity theory” can only be slightly supported by a few “cherry picked” questionable verses from the New Testament.

    I know it is fun to torment the ill-informed EV posters, but we are doing more harm than good by indulging in this practice since our participation increases the Google rankings of the site. Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.

    Let the site die, our participation in these sites is the only thing that keeps them alive, and by participating we are actually ***isting satan attack the Lord’s Church.

    Regards,
    Novato
    Just one more point.. If you enter the name of any of the main line Christian denominations, mormonism, Joseph Smith nor any of the modern detractors of the Christian Church pop up.. NO WHERE no matter how many pages you look down.. Not one word for or against an LDS teaching that all these churches are false and their teachers corrupt.. No mention that such a teaching is taught my the Lord's enemies at all.. I guess mormonism doesn't even deserve page 3 when compared to the truth.. It isn't so much as page 10. No MADD, No Maxwell I n s t i t u t e, No BYU, NOTHING. IT IS NOT RELEVANT, or deserving of mention when the truth is discussed.. IHS jim
    Last edited by James Banta; 10-27-2013 at 09:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    I appeal again to those of us who are still posting here, please stop and let the site die. I have been monitoring the average access and it is never more than a handful of viewers at any time.

    The main reason I used to post here was to defend the Lord’s Church against the unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed posts by the enemies of the Lord’s Gospel. All we were really doing was constantly recirculating the same discussion points that will never be resolved.

    Whenever we point to verses in the Holy Bible that support the LDS position we are accused of “cherry picking” verses. Which is pretty ludicrous since the “trinity theory” can only be slightly supported by a few “cherry picked” questionable verses from the New Testament.

    I know it is fun to torment the ill-informed EV posters, but we are doing more harm than good by indulging in this practice since our participation increases the Google rankings of the site. Admittedly they only appear on Page 3 of a Google search, as does CARM by the way, but this is mostly due to the admirable work done by our own SEO specialists.

    Let the site die, our participation in these sites is the only thing that keeps them alive, and by participating we are actually ***isting satan attack the Lord’s Church.

    Regards,
    Novato
    unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed I lilke those three words Navato. Let us start with unbiblical. Is it unbiblical to say Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible said. "take up his cross and follow me." ? If it is not unbiblical why do the LDSinc. teach Jesus of the Holy Bible atoned for mankind in a garden?
    Could you take a moment and tell me what I am uninformed about when it come to Joseph Smith jr, and his hanky-panky with the woment folk? I would love to know the real reason as to why he came up with polygamy? Really an angel threaten him with a sword if he didn't reveal it? I saved the last unverifialbe for last, Book of Mormon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealFakeHair View Post
    unbiblical, unverifiable, and uninformed I lilke those three words Navato. Let us start with unbiblical. Is it unbiblical to say Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible said. "take up his cross and follow me." ? If it is not unbiblical why do the LDSinc. teach Jesus of the Holy Bible atoned for mankind in a garden?
    Could you take a moment and tell me what I am uninformed about when it come to Joseph Smith jr, and his hanky-panky with the woment folk? I would love to know the real reason as to why he came up with polygamy? Really an angel threaten him with a sword if he didn't reveal it? I saved the last unverifialbe for last, Book of Mormon?
    I can point out many ways that mormonism is unbiblical.. Their priesthood is unbiblical.. Their doctrine of God is unbiblical. Their works salvation is unbiblical..

    They are a broken record in saying we don't know mormonism.. I have seen posters like Julie coming in here without knowing that Smith took married women as His wife. In the case of Zina Huntington Jacobs, Smith took her away from a devoted LDS husband to hold at least as his celestial wife.. Since even today the LDS believe marriage is mandatory to gain exaltation, Smith denied Henry Jacobs, Zina lawful husband, that level of "salvation". The LDS I have seen here are very uninformed..

    Can any "revelation", even the later ones addressed "To whom it may concern", be seen as verifiable. These were not of God, they are of a committee of men. The first of these "To whom it may concern" additions to the D&C were written in an effort to save the Churches temples from confiscation by the Federal Government because of the LDS insistence to live polygamy, a clear flaunting of federal Law.. It was economic and not a command of God that was behind the "Manifestos". The opening of the LDS Priesthood and therefore the temples to blacks solved another economic disaster.. There were thousands of members in Brazil of mixed race. None of these member who has sacrificed to have a Temple in Brazil would have been allowed to use it.. Most of them would have just kissed the LDS church off. Their t i t h e s would have been lost to the church.. That would have been a net business lose of millions of dollars a year.. There is no way of biblically showing if these "revelations" were of God and not man. Their temple ceremony is closer too Masonry than it is to the Bible, even after the still unverifiable changes made to the temple ceremony in 1990.. YOU AGAIN MY FRIEND ARE TOTALLY RIGHT IN YOUR CRITICISM OF LDS.INC.. IHS jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Banta View Post
    Just one more point.. If you enter the name of any of the main line Christian denominations, mormonism, Joseph Smith nor any of the modern detractors of the Christian Church pop up.. NO WHERE no matter how many pages you look down.. Not one word for or against an LDS teaching that all these churches are false and their teachers corrupt.. No mention that such a teaching is taught my the Lord's enemies at all.. I guess mormonism doesn't even deserve page 3 when compared to the truth.. It isn't so much as page 10. No MADD, No Maxwell I n s t i t u t e, No BYU, NOTHING. IT IS NOT RELEVANT, or deserving of mention when the truth is discussed.. IHS jim
    Hi James,

    Since I ***ume this is a question on SEO I will respond. Problem is I do not comprehend what you are asking or stating. Could you please clarify, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novato View Post
    Hi James,

    Since I ***ume this is a question on SEO I will respond. Problem is I do not comprehend what you are asking or stating. Could you please clarify, thanks.

    Regards,

    Novato
    Smith nor His church are referenced at all in the online pages of the Christian denominations internet pages.. It doesn't matter how far down you drill. Mormonism is just not mentioned at all.. You said that the websites that are critical of mormonism don't appear until page 10.. Why are they there at all? NO Christian denomination included anti mormon talk in their scripture.. Mormonism has included anti Christian talk in theirs.. Hope that helps you. I still believe that my original post was clear enough.. IHS jim

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