Here was you post followed by mine.
It is easy to tell you what you are wrong about.
My belief about God was not topical to the thread when RFH said I was wrong.
You answering for RFH when I asked him what I was wrong about by interjecting your own non-topical belief of what you think I am wrong about, is exactly what is meant by taking a post in an "errant direction".
Your direction is just a circle....a merry-go-round. That's why you continue to try and get LDS to play on it with you.
The thing about you is that you have no interest in actually talking about Mormonism. When I told you what you are wrong about instead of actually wanting to defend yourself you pull out your "circle--a merry-go-round" quote. You use this line in your attempt to retreat because in your heart you know that you can't defend what you believe from the Bible. All you can do is try and pick and posters--as long as it doesn't require trying to actually defend your false religion.My belief about God was not topical to the thread when RFH said I was wrong.
You answering for RFH when I asked him what I was wrong about by interjecting your own non-topical belief of what you think I am wrong about, is exactly what is meant by taking a post in an "errant direction".
Your direction is just a circle....a merry-go-round. That's why you continue to try and get LDS to play on it with you.
If you know the Biblical Gospel because of my words. If you know the Biblical Christ because of my words. And you know these things so well that you know how I will respond, then leaving the forum might be best for you if you aren't going to believe the truth so clearly stated in the Bible.. I hope I am predictable in my teaching.. That is far better than making up a new gospel ever few years as Smith did, and mormonism did after him..[Sir;148884]Easy. When you know someone's thoughts well enough, know how they post, know basically what they are going to say, and you see what amounts to a diatribe in response to something, it doesn't require reading the diatribe to know that is what it is.
If what you say doesn't agree with the Bible it is errant.. To teach that there are three Gods with whom we have to do is ANTI Biblical.. That is the majority opinion in mormonism. There is one other and I don't pretend to know where your mind is on the subject. That only the Father is God and Jesus is merely His first born "created son", and is not a God at all.. One denies the Bible as God's truth when He teaches us that NO GOD WAS FORM BEFORE OR AFTER HIM. The other denies the deity of Christ. It doesn't matter which way you choose both doctrines are errant.And it is pretty funny to hear *you* accuse LDS of "going off in a totally errant direction" in posting!!
You can take that up with him.. IHS jimbillyray must be LDS according to you since he decided to chime in this thread with his own attempt at a zinger which was quite an "errant direction" from this thread.
I don't answer for him either.. Take that up with him.. I have read the BofM more than once. I condemn it as false teaching.. No One has ever done all they can do.. According to James we MUST cloth the naked, feed the hungry, and care for the widows and orphan. There is always ONE MORE hour we could have used to help them. One more dollar we could give.. Not one of us have ever done all we can do, so according to the BofM not one of us can be saved by the grace of God.. The Bible teaches us that the Grace of God come to those who have faith in Jesus.. At least that is a reachable goal.. You want someone who has read the BofM to show you problems with it.. I met your requirements.. IHS jim
With you? True.
Well, duh. You have 23,000+ posts here. You think I (and everyone else here) don't know your game? With all those posts you still have yet to convince any of us of what you think is true.When I told you what you are wrong about instead of actually wanting to defend yourself you pull out your "circle--a merry-go-round" quote.
False. But your psycho-****ysis of me is about as accurate as your theological beliefs.You use this line in your attempt to retreat because in your heart you know that you can't defend what you believe from the Bible.
The only posters here are you (who is a one-hit questions asking wonder), James (who can barely string a paragraph together that makes complete sense and whose posts bore me so much I can't even get through them anymore), and RealFakeHair (who makes ludicrous comments and occasionally lashes out but offers nothing for me to consider).All you can do is try and pick and posters--as long as it doesn't require trying to actually defend your false religion.
Besides, my true religion doesn't need a defense from me to you since your heart is stone and you are past feeling and nothing I say or do will ever be accepted by you. Time is too precious to waste on that.
To see the inane things the critics of my faith are spouting and to see if they have come up with anything new or substantial.
Uhhh....yeeeahhh.....okay.You are just a finger in a gl*** of water. Pulled out the hole will not remain and the finger will not be missed.. IHS jim
Sir. This is why your religion is considered a CULT! You keep deep dark secrets or embarr***ments covered in a cloud of non-answers or bait and switch tactics. We all know what Brigham Young meant when he used the word (natural) and the example of was begotten of his father, as we were of our fathers." (JoD, vol. 8, p. 115).
Maybe just maybe your parents didn't explain the birds and bees to you, but if you like I will. My Father had sex with my mother, 'I hope it was natural'; anway if you take it all the way back to what Brigham Young was saying it meant the mormon jesus was begotten by his father in the same natural way I was begotten by my father, ie sex!
If you don't like it find, but don't blame Christians for our disgust of your Brigham Young!
Why do you want something new when you can't address the problems that have already been brought up multiple times on this board? Again you have no interest in actually talking about Mormonism. Do you?
Your "problems" have been addressed many times, here, at CARM, and for the last 180 years.
The real "problem" is you anti-LDS never accept any answer because you believe your answers are the only correct ones. So you keep asking questions, not to get answers but to try and make a point that you have a problem.
See? Thank you for that perfect example! I have already answered THAT question multiple times in this thread alone, and yet, you continue to ask it as if you never received an answer.Again you have no interest in actually talking about Mormonism. Do you?
Just like you do with LDS theology.
Goes to show you really need LDS posters here to play with you. That's why you keep responding to me trying to get me to play with you.
Kind of sad.
No they have not been addressed and you have no intention to try and address them. Do you?
The sad thing is that you refuse to even try to defend your beliefs.
Do you read the scripture? Does it change so as to better hold your attention. Is the Gospel message in flux so you can enjoy it more fully? No, God's promises and intent are always consistent. The same message he offered to us in Jesus was retold again and again by those that held faith in Him.. All you have of the Real Gospel story is contempt..
I have already shown that the LDS don't believe in the Bible as God preserved it for us.. I guess hearing the same old, old story of Jesus and His love is a merry-go-round to you as well.. IHS jim
HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM the message we get from mormonism "Have you read the BofM, have you prayed about it".. Around and around they go.. IHS jim
This site is just in cyberspace and is nothing but a place where a few people debate Mormonism with themselves. 90% of threads are by you! with lurkers popping in and out? CC, was a private toy of Bob Betts who just got lazy. Also since he just wants a "hi-five", "look at me"; why have someone make me look foolish.It is the truth that CC banned so many of the LDS posters that they were soon ALL gone.. But WM seldom bans anyone.. I believe that is because the postings are done with curtsey in mind and that is really all Jill ever asked of us to be, courteous.. The LDS seem to love comparing apple with Abrams tanks.. After all they are so much alike, right???? IHS jim
I agree.. Still there is no demand here that the LDS agree with the Christians as was demanded on CC.. As I said there is no comparison between the two sites even with the demands from as many of the LDS posters that there is..This site is just in cyberspace and is nothing but a place where a few people debate Mormonism with themselves. 90% of threads are by you! with lurkers popping in and out? CC, was a private toy of Bob Betts who just got lazy. Also since he just wants a "hi-five", "look at me"; why have someone make me look foolish.
BTW I also agree with your signature.. There is no such thing as Christian tolerance. Jesus said that He is the only Way to God.. The LDS demand that their church is that Way.. There is no tolerance in mormonism either (See the Mountain Meadow M***acre).. IHS jim
after reading the way this topic got tossed around....I seem to have forgotten what it started out as?