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[James Banta]

Originally Posted by RealFakeHair

Just so no one mistakes, I am also a hypocrite too, but aint we all!

This was no error.. It was used to answer a question.. Like quoting a verse.. The LDS pull data from all over their church and even reference the creeds. The asked about Pastor Wallas.. I answered.. That was not an error.. Believe me I make more than my share of errors and sins.. I know the difference between the two.. This wasn't an error.. IHS jim

[Snow Patrol]

Originally Posted by James Banta

It wasn't me that insisted on knowing the ident ity of the man in question.. I often use non Walter Martin sources to answer questions.. This time Pastor Wallas' bio would have been to large to post here..

I didn't pull any data from another other forum. I references a site that answered questions about the man that contacted me concerning this site.. It's all about this site not MADD, CARM, Concerned Christians, or any other site.. It had ONLY to do with discussion here and a reference use to answer a question.. Tell you what.. If you find a response on CARM that aids you in answering a question here feel free to use it.. Just don't drag complaints against CARM, it's posters, or mods into discussion here.. We have had nothing to do with what was said there or how the mods dealt with it.. Is that fair? I think so.. IHS jim

James, please show the exact rule that says that other sites can't be discussed here. I checked and didn't see anything of the sort on the list of rules. If you can't, there is absolutely no problem with discussing other sites on here.

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

Then, after we have admitted that, we have two options:

1. Keep on being hypocrites, with no improvement in our behavior, no "becoming more like Jesus wants us to be" or

2. Stop attacking other churches and instead focus on all the things we have in common instead of all the differences, so that we can be a united force for good in the world.

Which is the correct option, according to the New Testament?

Don't you just hate the New testament as it commands us to contend for the faith (Jude 1:3)? Don't you just HATE what Joseph Smith said that Jesus told him, that all the Churches were wrong and their teachers corrupt? Would that insulting statement be anti New Testament especially if it was made into a churches scripture? yet the LDS does that! Then along comes jeff a member of that very church that included those statements in it's scripture. He says it's wrong to attack another person's church.. Which is the truth, that which a man he calls a prophet said or his own words that say the exact opposite? This is one reason why mormonism is wrong.. They have no rock by which all their doctrines are laid out and never change..

BTW jeff we have nothing in common.. Not even who and what Jesus is.. The Bible further commands us not to become unequally yoked with unbelievers (2 Corinthians 6:14). For what does righteousness have to do with unrighteousness or light with darkness. The LDS may keep aiding other religions that deny Jesus all the wish even allowing Muslims to use their buildings (http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewt...p?f=20&t=13993). So I again ask what does righteousness have to do with unrighteousness or light with darkness? Is it only to be seen by the world as open and accepting? All your talk of obedience and yet mormonism turns their facilities over to the workers of err and darkness.. And you say we should work together? NO!!! IHS jim

[RealFakeHair]

We all American's have this in common. Happy Thanksgving day everybody!

[Sir]

Originally Posted by Snow Patrol

James, please show the exact rule that says that other sites can't be discussed here. I checked and didn't see anything of the sort on the list of rules. If you can't, there is absolutely no problem with discussing other sites on here.

The rule is: 'do not carry over arguments from other boards to the WM Board.'

But that doesn't say we can't talk about other boards, or make fun of their hypocrisy and double-standards. It just says not to bring any of their arguments here.

[RealFakeHair]

Originally Posted by Sir

The rule is: 'do not carry over arguments from other boards to the WM Board.'

But that doesn't say we can't talk about other boards, or make fun of their hypocrisy and double-standards. It just says not to bring any of their arguments here.

Here is a double-standard, or maybe not. Why do LDSinc. Celebrate the mormon jesus birth-day on Dec,25, when he was born in the month of April?

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Snow Patrol

James, please show the exact rule that says that other sites can't be discussed here. I checked and didn't see anything of the sort on the list of rules. If you can't, there is absolutely no problem with discussing other sites on here.

As I said to jeff discuss them only leave your complaints about them there.. If you want to ask us how we feel about how they are conducting their site fine.. I will agree with you that they are not fair at all and that in a major reason why I am here instead of being there.. So what is there to complain about? Have you been unfairly treated here? You haven't been banned have you? So with nothing to complain about here, what is the purpose for your posts about CARM? You have none.. IHS jim

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Sir

The rule is: 'do not carry over arguments from other boards to the WM Board.'

But that doesn't say we can't talk about other boards, or make fun of their hypocrisy and double-standards. It just says not to bring any of their arguments here.

Are you not doing just that in complaining about the unfairness of CARM after a mod there said that you were banned? You have a bone yo pick with the way CARM is moderated.. That is an argument that you lost because of your lack of authority to continue to argue with them there.. Just let it go.. IHS jim

[Sir]

Originally Posted by RealFakeHair

Here is a double-standard, or maybe not. Why do LDSinc. Celebrate the mormon jesus birth-day on Dec,25, when he was born in the month of April?

Same reason the world does.

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Sir

Same reason the world does.

And of course you always follow the ways of the world... IHS jim

[RealFakeHair]

Originally Posted by Sir

Same reason the world does.

I got an idea, why not put the mormon jesus and Joseph Smith jr. b-day celebration at the same time on April fools day!

[Snow Patrol]

Originally Posted by James Banta

As I said to jeff discuss them only leave your complaints about them there.. If you want to ask us how we feel about how they are conducting their site fine.. I will agree with you that they are not fair at all and that in a major reason why I am here instead of being there.. So what is there to complain about? Have you been unfairly treated here? You haven't been banned have you? So with nothing to complain about here, what is the purpose for your posts about CARM? You have none.. IHS jim

So, you can't provide the rule that prohibits talking about other sites whether it is their actions or complaints. Bring up your problem about this with Jill and get the rules changed. Otherwise, we'll talk about what we want to talk about. Put the thread on ignore if you must, but don't come and complain about it because no one is doing anything wrong.

[Sir]

Originally Posted by James Banta

And of course you always follow the ways of the world... IHS jim

Was that a cheap shot? From the guy who actually cheated on his wife, making a jab at me for following the ways of the world?

All of Christianity celebrates Christmas in Dec., so the LDS do too.

[Sir]

Originally Posted by RealFakeHair

I got an idea, why not put the mormon jesus and Joseph Smith jr. b-day celebration at the same time on April fools day!

That day is reserved for celebrating Anti-mormons.

Congrats!

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Sir

Was that a cheap shot? From the guy who actually cheated on his wife, making a jab at me for following the ways of the world?

All of Christianity celebrates Christmas in Dec., so the LDS do too.

If I knew it was really another day I would celebrate that day not a day chosen by the world.. But then I don't so any day will do.. If that was a cheep shot, you will have to come up with better proof than you have so far.. I have spoken enough about your judgements on me, I still say keep shouting them they only prove you you serve.. IHS jim

[Sir]

Originally Posted by James Banta

If I knew it was really another day I would celebrate that day not a day chosen by the world.. But then I don't so any day will do.. If that was a cheep shot, you will have to come up with better proof than you have so far.. I have spoken enough about your judgements on me, I still say keep shouting them they only prove you you serve.. IHS jim

So you follow the world.

Kind of ironic since you tried to make that claim against me as a pejoritive.

LOL

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Sir

So you follow the world.

Kind of ironic since you tried to make that claim against me as a pejoritive.

LOL

You have a problem understanding.. I am a Biblical Christian.. Therefore I believe what is taught there..

Romans 14:2-5
For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak , eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth : for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth . Yea, he shall be holden up : for God is able to make him stand . One man esteemeth one day above another : another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Days have no real meaning to me other than it's a time to be with my loved ones.. I have no idea what day Jesus was born. It doesn't matter, but the LDS say that they do know and it is a special day to them anyway.. So what stops you from telling the world we are wrong and celebrate Christmas on April 6th? It's the convention.. You don't want to look any more strange to the world than you already do.. IHS jim

[Apologette]

Originally Posted by James Banta

I don't know where He got my Phone number. I don't care.. A Mr Jason Wallace, called me because he had seen my posts on this forum.. That was exciting in two ways. 1. I found out for sure that there are people that lurk here.. This means there is purpose and life in the ole forum after all. Mr Wallace doesn't post but he does the read the posts.. 2. Hey snow, sir, way, Papa, and jeff; he said my post were totally comprehensible.. That kind of shuts down your insistence that my posts are nothing but meaningless, wandering, incoherent nonsense.. There are people out there that have no trouble at all understanding me..

That this point you may be saying "so what".. It may mean nothing to you and the limited Christian posting was starting to get me down but God used My Wallace to energize me and show me that my ministry here does have purpose.. I has committed myself to keep this forum active and now I see real purpose in this work God has called me to.. That must be a tremendous disappointment to you.. So post or don't post. I know for sure my posts are being read and the message used to lift others in their walk with Jesus and their knowledge of just why mormonism is so spiritually dangerous.. IHS jim

That's great news, Jim. The LDS Church is seeing the greatest loss of members since the days of the Kirtland Banking fraud by Joseph Smith! People are out to gather information -and they are leaving! Keep up the good work.

[nrajeffreturns]

Originally Posted by Apologette

That's great news, Jim. The LDS Church is seeing the greatest loss of members since the days of the Kirtland Banking fraud by Joseph Smith! People are out to gather information -and they are leaving! Keep up the good work.

Yeah, keep turning theists into atheists. That's only defined as "success" by the devil's standards.

[RealFakeHair]

Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

Yeah, keep turning theists into atheists. That's only defined as "success" by the devil's standards.

Hey, remember the devil is your brother too. lol

[nrajeffreturns]

Originally Posted by RealFakeHair

Hey, remember the devil is your brother too. lol

That doesn't mean I need to like him or what he does.

[Apologette]

Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

So one person (besides the few who post) actually reads the posts here?

That's one more than I thought, so that's impressive!

Hey, Jason, why not post something so we can get an idea of the type of person you are?

Tell us some things about yourself--background, hobbies, why you hate LDS people so much (jk), etc.

Well, I notice you flee here every time you get booted off of CARM. Maybe you actually like this forum. I do, since I can easily avoid the most egregious Mormon posters over on CARM, and simply use the ignore feature should I want to shut out any here I might find too unethical to speak to. What are your hobbies, Jeff? I collect stamps - basically from Tannu Tuva, but others as well. I have two organic gardens, and plant a lot of native shrubs. I swim quite a lot. My husband and I also do amature archaeology when we get the chance, which is one reason I find Mormonism to be so outlandish! How about you, Jeff. Seems you are on one board or another all the time.

[Apologette]

Originally Posted by nrajeffreturns

Yeah, keep turning theists into atheists. That's only defined as "success" by the devil's standards.

Sorry, Jeff, but you Mormons are already atheists - you believe in no Supreme Being of any different species than yourselves! That's atheism.

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Apologette

Sorry, Jeff, but you Mormons are already atheists - you believe in no Supreme Being of any different species than yourselves! That's atheism.

Jeff in his three heavens doctrines doesn't believe that anyone except for the extremely few are cast out as son of perdition.. Instead, Christians believe the Bible.. We know that wide is the road that leads to destruction.. Those that refuse to submit to God by the millions of millions walk that road and will be sons of perdition as they stand before the great white throne to receive God's final judgment.. Atheism is just another form of faithlessness in God and mormonism is faithlessness in God.. IHS jim

[James Banta]

Originally Posted by Snow Patrol

So, you can't provide the rule that prohibits talking about other sites whether it is their actions or complaints. Bring up your problem about this with Jill and get the rules changed. Otherwise, we'll talk about what we want to talk about. Put the thread on ignore if you must, but don't come and complain about it because no one is doing anything wrong.

READ THE RULES SNOW.. There you will find a rule against posting what was found on other forums.. Leave discussions that were made in CARM, in CARM. Don't drag their problems over here.. It states clearly "do not carry over arguments from other boards to the WM Board." I believe it's a good rule and ask you and your fellows to follow it.. IHS jim