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[nothead]

Originally Posted by disciple

Hey NH,

Verse 8 specifies that the Son is being addressed. Jesus mentions this in Mat. 22:41-45

didn't say v. 8 not addressed to the Son. SAYING v. 10 switches addressed referent. Funny thing about language and the Bible. NT has two main characters, the Father who is God and the Son who is below Him and above the angels...

...the referent addressed then frequently changes.

[disciple]

Originally Posted by nothead

didn't say v. 8 not addressed to the Son. SAYING v. 10 switches addressed referent. Funny thing about language and the Bible. NT has two main characters, the Father who is God and the Son who is below Him and above the angels...

...the referent addressed then frequently changes.

Hello not,

I would like to hear your explanation for Isaiah 9:6;

"For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace".

[nothead]

Originally Posted by disciple

Hello not,

I would like to hear your explanation for Isaiah 9:6;

"For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace".

The key term is 'El Gibbor' which is variously translated, most often I believe as 'mighty warrior' in the OT.

Specific verses, ahem gosh now I gotta do some homework. Don't have a pasty here...

http://www.21stcr.org/multimedia/art...Isaiah9-6.html

The Hebrew word gibbor occurs over 150 times in the MT in either its singular or plural form. In over half of these instances the New American Standard Bible renders it “mighty” or “mighty man” or “men.” In thirty-eight of them it is translated “warrior(s).” This evidence shows that el gibbor can be treated as an adjective or a substantive (noun) that designates men. Context and ***ociated words are the determining factors.
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In turn the word 'EL' is not THE like in Spanish rather God, POWER, STRONG or MIGHTY.

Kind of conspiracy on the part of the 'orthodox' wouldn't you say?

[reinart]

It wasn't speaking of mighty warrior here, he is Mighty God.