Salvation--is it only for those to obey the commandments perfectly?

[BigJulie]

Originally Posted by disciple

Hi DB,

Just a comment, the judgments on the house of God are Fatherly chastisements and are different from
God's judgment on the world and the condemnation that goes with it.

"But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord that we may not be condemned with the world." 1 Cor. 11:32

So, you have spoken of "rewards" for the righteous and now chastisement for the righteous. What is this based on?

And how do you see condemnation?


Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater ****ation.

How does one receive a "great ****ation"? What does this mean to you?

[alanmolstad]

some receive many stripes, some few.

some are seated at a higher seat, some are moved to a lower.

[dberrie2000]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

some receive many stripes, some few. some are seated at a higher seat, some are moved to a lower.

I believe you are right--the difference between eternal life and ****ation might be the difference between a higher and lower seat:

John 5:28-29---King James Version (KJV)
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of ****ation.

[dberrie2000]

Originally Posted by disciple

Hi DB,

Just a comment, the judgments on the house of God are Fatherly chastisements and are different from
God's judgment on the world and the condemnation that goes with it.

Hi Disciple:

Romans 2:5-11---King James Version (KJV)
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

Acts 10:34-35--King James Version (KJV)
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.