Creation Museum: A Monument to Man's Ignorance.

[MacG]

Originally Posted by Christodoulos

the word disk ,i don't think is king james.

I stated that scriptures refer the earth as being a flat disk.

and I gave you something to read about it.

I see. So no scriptures as you stated, exist?

FWIW, the word circle does not appear in 1 Enoch.

[alanmolstad]

1st......I simply have zero free time during the week to post here..so thats a problem for it seems that all other guests only have free time during the work week to post here...Thus I am not able to have much of a good conversation on this topic.

2nd...Im the only one here that has sat and listened to Ken Ham teach on his ORIGINS ideas, for I attended his 8-week cl*** and I have seen all he shows people, listened to all his arguments.

3rd....I came away with a profound sadness at the harm the Young earth Creationism teachings were doing to the other members of my cl***.
I also came away with a mission, and that mission was to set forward to people a "alternative" to what Ken Ham was teaching. My alternative is to just read the Text and teach it as it appears....Take it at face value that it means what it says.
Take it to mean what it shows us it says, free of our needing to come in and change things, add words, slap on new meanings, just to make it agree with YEC teachings...

So lastly 4th....Ken Ham was mostly wrong about all his YEC ideas....mostly very wrong to the point of being very harmful to the church

[MacG]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

1st......I simply have zero free time during the week to post here..so thats a problem for it seems that all other guests only have free time during the work week to post here...Thus I am not able to have much of a good conversation on this topic.

2nd...Im the only one here that has sat and listened to Ken Ham teach on his ORIGINS ideas, for I attended his 8-week cl*** and I have seen all he shows people, listened to all his arguments.

3rd....I came away with a profound sadness at the harm the Young earth Creationism teachings were doing to the other members of my cl***.
I also came away with a mission, and that mission was to set forward to people a "alternative" to what Ken Ham was teaching. My alternative is to just read the Text and teach it as it appears....Take it at face value that it means what it says.
Take it to mean what it shows us it says, free of our needing to come in and change things, add words, slap on new meanings, just to make it agree with YEC teachings...

So lastly 4th....Ken Ham was mostly wrong about all his YEC ideas....mostly very wrong to the point of being very harmful to the church

To whom were you replying?

[alanmolstad]

I was responding more or less to post number 4 but also because I don't get a chance to post very much I'm just making this a general post so everyone is included

[DrDavidT]

I am not really a fan of the Creation Museum but I am sure it serves a purpose. I am really against the new 'ark encounter' AIG is building and have sent my comments to that organization directly. That project is a waste of money and I am disappointed in their reliance on feasibility studies than God's leading. They also told me that they think that this new project is the foremost evangelistic tool they can think of.

I told them that this new project was more about Mr. Ham's ego than God or evangelism. They didn't like that. But I see more of Mr. ham than God in their recent actions {billboards}

[alanmolstad]

The guy got banned, and after reading the flow of this conversation its not hard to see that would be soon the result of his comments.

It is worth noting that when asked to provide a verse that says the "Earth if Flat" the guy could only dodge the question.


Now Im not saying there is or is not such a verse,,,,,but I am saying that it was clear after reading this that then guy named Christodoulos
was unable to supply such a verse when asked over and over for it...