Originally Posted by
Phoenix
They will if they want to be saved. How else can a man be saved, besides obeying God? Do you know of any other way to be saved? Do you know a way to be saved WITHOUT obeying God?
Don't you know what goes on at Christian altar calls?
"If anyone here has a desire to be saved, I'm here to tell you that what you must do is profess, here and now, that you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and that you want to follow Him! All who want to be saved, come forward and say the Sinner's Prayer, and you will be saved!"
How about the Athanasian Creed? Does it support your belief that no one is able to obey God's commandments until AFTER God has given him eternal life?
"Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. ...This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved."
That sure doesn't sound like the twisted, "cart before horse" doctrine of "God saves you first, and then you can and will obey Him after"--which is a false doctrine. It should be obvious that it doesn't work that way.