Walter Martin and faith alone theology

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by dberrie2000

When you find the term "faith" above--is that a reference to a faith with works--or a faith without works?

Faith is never alone.

But we are not saved by Grace though faith and works....

We are only saved by grace though faith alone......not faith and works......



To sum up :
Mankind is saved by Grace working though faith, and not by works.

For faith is never alone...


here is a video I like to remind people like you of, so that you may learn from Walter Martin what role faith has in our Christian teachings of salvation -|

[dberrie2000]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

Faith is never alone.

For faith is never alone...

Could you please reveal to us what the faith alone add to faith in obtaining salvation?

IOW--If we are saved by grace through faith--what are you claiming is added to that faith in obtaining salvation?

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by dberrie2000

Could you please reveal to us what the faith alone add to faith in obtaining salvation?

IOW--If we are saved by grace through faith--what are you claiming is added to that faith in obtaining salvation?

There was a guy who asked Jesus what are the works that God requires.....this must have been a question that was sparked by the encounter that Jesus had where a guy said that he had always kept the law, and yet was still found to be lacking in God's eyes.


So if keeping the law from birth is not good enough, if that huge amount of works still is yet lacking, that the question was asked of jesus what are the works that God wants from us?

The answer Jesus gave points us right back to the verse that teaches how all men are saved.

Jesus says that there is only ONE WORK that is needed....and that is the work of believeing.




In other words....."faith"





Thus we return to the verse that teaches, we are saved by Grace though FAITH, and not by any works.!

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

Faith is never alone.

But we are not saved by Grace though faith and works....

We are only saved by grace though faith alone......not faith and works......



To sum up :
Mankind is saved by Grace working though faith, and not by works.

For faith is never alone...


here is a video I like to remind people like you of, so that you may learn from Walter Martin what role faith has in our Christian teachings of salvation -|

bump for a new member with questions...

[alanmolstad]

Reviewing this topic we see that the Mormon simply wanted to see something that just was not there...

The Mormon wanted so baddy Walter to have said something...and so the Mormon tried to hide the truth but I caught on and showed the truth....

[alanmolstad]

so to review...

When a Christian believes we are saved by Grace alone though faith and not by works, the Mormon will try to say that we are teaching "faith without works'

The error of the Mormon is that they need the phrase "Not by works" to mean "Without works"
That is a needed error , and the mormons need that error to support their version of being saved by grace though faith and works.

The Mormon needs that "and works" because the Mormon needs to feel they worked hard and 'earned" their salvation.


All Mormons are so totally in error on this point that its very sad