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    Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    Objective reasons preferred, as opposed to subjective opinions and personal beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
    Objective reasons preferred, as opposed to subjective opinions and personal beliefs.
    I am not a protestant, but while you are waiting for one to respond, i want to elaborate on your logic.

    logically, most people belong to the church they belong to, because they believe its teachings are superior to any other church's teachings. For Christians, they believe their denomination is closer to the teachings of Jesus' original church than the teachings of any other denomination.

    this is logical because if a person believed that some other denomination had teachings that were closer to the original's than the one the person is currently in, the person would leave it and join the one he believed was closer to the original. after all, why would someone stay in a church he believed has less-correct teachings than some other church? that wouldn't be logical.

    so your thread is really asking posters who belong to a protestant denomination (or a non-denominational church) this question:

    "why do you think your sect has the most correct teachings of all the churches and sects currently on the earth?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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    Joe Smith lied about all the things he came out with...all the stuff about seeing angels...all the stuff about digging up things...all that stuff was a lie that he wanted to use to get the two things he was always after....

    #1 - money
    #2- sex with other women besides his wife.

    So trusting in any of the claims by Smith leads you down a dark path....to damnation---





    But on the other hand....
    If you want to spend the rest of eternity cooking in the Lake of Fire?...then dont pay any attention to what Im saying...
    (my warnings are aimed at people who have doubts about Smith's claims.)
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

    Objective reasons preferred, as opposed to subjective opinions and personal beliefs.
    You should choose ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCH over the mormon non-Christian cult. It would be INFINITELY BETTER for any mormon to change from cultism to CHRISTIANITY, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    so your thread is really asking posters who belong to a protestant denomination (or a non-denominational church) this question:

    "why do you think your sect has the most correct teachings of all the churches and sects currently on the earth?"
    Yes, exactly. It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    Joe Smith lied about all the things he came out with...all the stuff about seeing angels...all the stuff about digging up things...all that stuff was a lie that he wanted to use to get the two things he was always after....

    #1 - money
    #2- sex with other women besides his wife.

    So trusting in any of the claims by Smith leads you down a dark path....to damnation---
    But how does this favor Protestantism? Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    But how does this favor Protestantism? Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?
    maybe they don't understand what a logical answer should look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    maybe they don't understand what a logical answer should look like.
    What praytell, do YOU know about logic?

    We CHRISTIANS live by the Word of God (the BIBLE). We do NOT follow false prophets, charlitans, fairytale spinners such as joseph smith, david koresh, jim jones or the like. INSTEAD, we serve the LORD as the BIBLE has revealed HIM.

    You mormons may follow joey smith if you wish.

    But ANY CHRISTIAN church beats following the fraud and false prophet joey smith.

    Perhas YOU don't understand what the TRUTH looks like. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?
    I believe that Mormonism is false based only on the fact that Joe Smith lied and made up the whole wild story about angels and finding stuff.

    This means that I believe that all Mormons worship a false god....and have a false Christ.

    This means that they are unforgiven, and are still in their sins when they die...and therefore doomed.
    Joe Smith lied...He made up the whole stinking pile of ideas that he convinced others to believe in...


    Joe did this for mostly 2 main reasons...
    He wanted to turn the story into a way to earn easy money.
    and,he wanted to cheat on his wife with other women.

    Joe was a con man.
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    I believe that Mormonism is false based only on the fact that Joe Smith lied and made up the whole wild story about angels and finding stuff.

    This means that I believe that all Mormons worship a false god....and have a false Christ.

    This means that they are unforgiven, and are still in their sins when they die...and therefore doomed.
    Joe Smith lied...He made up the whole stinking pile of ideas that he convinced others to believe in...


    Joe did this for mostly 2 main reasons...
    He wanted to turn the story into a way to earn easy money.
    and,he wanted to cheat on his wife with other women.

    Joe was a con man.
    Again, how does any of this argue in favor of Protestantism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Again, how does any of this argue in favor of Protestantism?
    So what we want to search for is a Christian church that takes a STRONG stand against the type of hanky-panky that The Mormon Joe Smith was into and pushing...
    We want to make sure that the Christian church we join takes a strong stand against the lies told by Smith...
    We want to find a Christian church that has a strong outreach to the CULTS like the Mormons, so that we can get the research we need when we come into contact with the different non-Christian CULTS....

    We want a church that holds that cheating on your wife with a little 14 year old girl is simply wrong.....
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by childofgod View Post
    So everyone in the Bible who had encounters with angels were con men then because they claimed to see angels like Mary did before the birth of Jesus? So you don't believe angels will be shown to anyone anymore? I guess Mary lied when she said an angel visited her.
    The Clinton defense....LOL


    classic.....
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by childofgod View Post
    As Mormons, we are Christians. Biblical Christians..
    No the Mormons are all LOST!
    They are still lost in their sins...
    The have "Dead Faith" because their faith is alone and without works, for the only work required is to believe in the true Jesus of the Bible...and as the Mormons reject the true Jesus of the Bible they have "Dead Faith"

    People that have "Dead Faith" like the Mormons do, die without hope and burn for eternity in Hell's fire.
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    So what we want to search for is a Christian church that takes a STRONG stand against the type of hanky-panky that The Mormon Joe Smith was into and pushing...
    We want to make sure that the Christian church we join takes a strong stand against the lies told by Smith...
    We want to find a Christian church that has a strong outreach to the CULTS like the Mormons, so that we can get the research we need when we come into contact with the different non-Christian CULTS....

    We want a church that holds that cheating on your wife with a little 14 year old girl is simply wrong.....
    Okay, all I'm getting out of this is that you can't come up with a single reason why we should choose your church over ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Okay, all I'm getting out of this is that you can't come up with a single reason why we should choose your church over ours.
    well.....the stand the church takes against a pedophile like Joe Smith is about the first thing a person should check on to make sure of when you are looking at different religions.

    Does the church totally reject people that think like Joe Smith who cheated on their wives?...or do they make excuses?....like Clinton?....

    On the other hand....If you are turned on by little 14 year old girls?..if you want to cheat on your wife and get away with it?...if you want to raise the reputation of Satan to the level of actually beiing a brother of Jesus?.....Then the Mormons are the correct church for you!!!!!!

    Enjoy the ride while you can,
    Because you are going to be burning in hell for a long-long time
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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    The Clinton defense....LOL


    classic.....
    Its like the other day when I pointed out to Mormon that Joe Smith is a Pedophile* and cheated on his wife with other women.
    The defense the Mormon's came up with was to try to find other people in history that did the same thing as what they therefore have to admit Joe Smith was guilty of.

    Notice the Mormons don't try to say "It never happened!"

    Rather what they say is, "But other guys did the same thing!"

    This is the same defense that President Clinton tried when he got caught with a young girl.

    This type of defense is all a guy has left to try when they are caught red-handed...

    Its an old defense....goes all the way back to the garden of Eden,and was first used when Adam pointed to his wife rather than admitting his sin and being prepared to face the fact that he was guilty and God knew it.

    Mormons are the same way...
    * http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by childofgod View Post
    We believe in ....l.
    Mormons believe in a lie.
    Mormons believe in a false Jesus that has nothing to do with the Jesus of the Bible.
    Mormons believe in following the teachings of a known pedophile.
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    Mormons believe in a lie.
    Mormons believe in a false Jesus that has nothing to do with the Jesus of the Bible.
    Mormons believe in following the teachings of a known pedophile.

    Mormons believe this Smith guy....its hard for me to understand how Mormons cant see what he was....but they believe his lies.

    joe Smith came up with the idea that he would claim to find something like the Bible....and its not that hard to see how he came up with that idea after all, he was known at the time as a "money digger"

    Money diggers are a hype...a film-flam man who would get people to give him money on the chance he would be able to find hidden money of their lands.
    It easy to see how a guy who was in the business of fooling people and telling them a lie that he can find buried money would have the idea that a dream scam would be to claim to find something important like the Bible.

    Thats how the idea started...

    But claiming to find a lost bible is a lot more easy to do that proving you have that bible.
    thats why we dont have that "found" bible today....LOL

    Smith knew he could not let just anyone see his "found bible" because then people would not be as impressed with the story anymore once they learned that the "found Bible" was nothing more that a Sears catalog...LOL

    But....Smith was a good story teller, and as any con-man knows the best lie is the one told to people that want to believe it.

    Mormons want to believe the lie.
    That is why the Lies of Smith go on and on ....

    Tell a lie to someone who wants only the truth and the lie falls.
    Tell a lie to someone who wants the lie to be true and you have a religion....
    From the Forum RULES : "As you know, the Walter Martin website takes the position that Mormon theology is not Christian theology. Use of the term "LDS Christian" is inaccurate and misleading, and as such is not acceptable on this board."

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    Quote Originally Posted by childofgod View Post
    Because we don't believe in what you believe in, you think we believe in a lie..
    Mormons trust a lie, because they believe without question the lies told by a film-flam man , who dreamed up the whole "Oh hey I found a new Bible" story as a means to earn some free cash, and also a way to convince younger girls into his bed too....

    Thus Mormons have no works to go along with their faith.
    Faith without works is a dead.

    This is why Mormons have a "dead faith" for they lack the only work that Jesus said must be, and that is to believe in the true Son.

    Lacking this work, the Mormons and their "Dead faith" are unforgiven and thus when they die are condemned to the fire of Hell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by childofgod View Post
    As Mormons, we are Christians. Biblical Christians. I would never want to become a Protestant. Their teachings are heretical and do not come from the scriptures. The Holy Ghost does not testify to doctrines such as the Trinity because the Holy Ghost never testifies of that which is from the devil. I love being a true, New Testament Christian.
    Not true at all. As mormons you are dead, lost heathens. You would not want to become a 'protestant,' a category invented by the roman catholics WHICH MORMONS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE PART OF BY MOST OF THEM. That category was made-up by the catholics to include ALL NON-CATHOLIC RELIGIONS that claim to be Christian. Mormons are just sloppy with their word-choices much of the time.

    Because the Holy Spirit never testifies of that which is from the devil, I LOVE being a TRUE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN.

    Sorry about what that UNholy spirit told you. . .


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    child posted:
    We believe in the true Jesus of the Bible.

    No, the mormon religion believes in a 'jesus' who was supposedly a 'spirit child' of a god who supposedly was once a man, became a god, but was the same (a god) from eternity to eternity, who was supposedly one of many real gods extant.

    The Jesus of the BIBLE was NEVER 'a spirit child,' WAS NOT the son of a god who was ever a man, and is one 'person' of THE ONLY REAL GOD EXISTS.


    We believe what He said about baptism,

    Except that the mormon religion twists what Jesus said and makes it NOT what Jesus said at all. Then mormonism INVENTED its own 'baptism for the dead' that NO FOLLOWER OF THE REAL JESUS ANYWHERE ever practiced in CHRIST'S church.

    what he said through Paul about prophets and apostles, etc.

    Not quite. The mormon religion CLAIMS that prophets and apostles must be replenished in every generation, which JESUS NEVER ONCE SAID. Then the mormon religions (all 150+ of them) INVENTED THEIR OWN.

    JESUS and PAUL NEVER ONCE said that a 'prophet' would ever lead Christ's church here on earth.
    JESUS and PAUL NEVER ONCE said that apostles had to continue on beyond the deaths of the originals.

    THAT dung was all made up by joey smith and his gang. Sorry, but you don't teach what THE REAL JESUS taught at all.

    And sadly, you will only inherit a HOT place. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by childofgod View Post
    Because we don't believe in what you believe in, you think we believe in a lie. We believe in Jesus Christ and follow His gospel. You're a trinitarian which means you don't understand who God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are. Your beliefs break away from scripture.
    Let's see now. . .

    YOUR RELIGIOUS CULT TEACHES
    a god who used to be a man, but has never not been a god
    a god who has a physical body

    A jesus christ who is supposedly a spirit-brother to satan

    and a BUNCH OF OTHER DUNG that 'breaks away from scripture.'

    Joe smith invented his imaginary peoples of his fairytale writings, NONE OF WHICH have anything to do with the real world.

    And those who believe his fairytales will end up in Hell.

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    Well, it's been a week, and no one has offered a single reason to choose any Protestant church. Are there any conclusions we can draw from that fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erundur View Post
    Well, it's been a week, and no one has offered a single reason to choose any Protestant church. Are there any conclusions we can draw from that fact?
    "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
    And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
    And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Mat 16:15-18

    Jesus stated that He would build His church on the truth that He is the Savior and the Son of God. There was and is no need for any other church to be built or restored and any other than His church is false. Christian was correct when he said that the Catholic system labeled the church Christ built as Protestant. The church that belongs to Jesus Christ consists of those who believe the Gospel He proclaimed and that the Apostles preached as recorded in the New Testament. Christians put their faith and trust in the testimony of Jesus Christ and are consequently declared righteous and justified in the sight of God. Mormons from what I can see are putting their faith and trust in what Joseph Smith proclaimed, why should there be a question that more information is needed than what Jesus has already revealed? Who is more trustworthy Jesus Christ or the 14 year old Joseph Smith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    ... the Catholic system labeled the church Christ built as Protestant. The church that belongs to Jesus Christ consists of those who believe the Gospel He proclaimed and that the Apostles preached as recorded in the New Testament.
    But the Catholic Church is built on the truth that Jesus is the Savior and the Son of God---that's part of the church's foundational tenets or core beliefs.


    and you said that Jesus stated that He would build His church on the truth that He is the Savior and the Son of God. There was and is no need for any other church to be built or restored

    that means that if we believe your logic, there was no need for Protestant churches to be created.

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