Why should we pick YOURS?

[Erundur]

Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Objective reasons preferred, as opposed to subjective opinions and personal beliefs.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Erundur

Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Objective reasons preferred, as opposed to subjective opinions and personal beliefs.

I am not a protestant, but while you are waiting for one to respond, i want to elaborate on your logic.

logically, most people belong to the church they belong to, because they believe its teachings are superior to any other church's teachings. For Christians, they believe their denomination is closer to the teachings of Jesus' original church than the teachings of any other denomination.

this is logical because if a person believed that some other denomination had teachings that were closer to the original's than the one the person is currently in, the person would leave it and join the one he believed was closer to the original. after all, why would someone stay in a church he believed has less-correct teachings than some other church? that wouldn't be logical.

so your thread is really asking posters who belong to a protestant denomination (or a non-denominational church) this question:

"why do you think your sect has the most correct teachings of all the churches and sects currently on the earth?"

[Erundur]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

so your thread is really asking posters who belong to a protestant denomination (or a non-denominational church) this question:

"why do you think your sect has the most correct teachings of all the churches and sects currently on the earth?"

Yes, exactly. It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

[Christian]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I am not a protestant, but while you are waiting for one to respond, i want to elaborate on your logic.

logically, most people belong to the church they belong to, because they believe its teachings are superior to any other church's teachings. For Christians, they believe their denomination is closer to the teachings of Jesus' original church than the teachings of any other denomination.

this is logical because if a person believed that some other denomination had teachings that were closer to the original's than the one the person is currently in, the person would leave it and join the one he believed was closer to the original. after all, why would someone stay in a church he believed has less-correct teachings than some other church? that wouldn't be logical.

so your thread is really asking posters who belong to a protestant denomination (or a non-denominational church) this question:

"why do you think your sect has the most correct teachings of all the churches and sects currently on the earth?"

Only the cultists seem to believe that their sect/cult/religion is the most 'correct' on the earth.

We CHRISTIANS recognize that our own congregation/church/group is only one PART of the WHOLE CHRISTIAN church, the one that Jesus built.

'Johnny-come-lately' religions such as mormonism try to 'prove' they are better, but of course, they are merely each only one more cult. The utah mormons are simply one more of the 150+ lds religions. They are nothing special. They just want to add more 'religion' to their religion than other folks have. More rules, ordinances, and goals than GOD ever gave.

GOD said nothing about exalting men to godhood.
GOD said nothing about CHRISTIANS ever 'baptizing' for the dead
GOD said nothing about CHRISTIAN temples or ordinances

GOD said nothing about faithful CHRISTIANS 'forgetting' their doctrine, or 'losing their authority' or 'having Christ's church removed from the earth.
God said nothing about HIS BEING ANY "EXALTED MAN" anywhere, but instead said the complete OPPOSITE.

Those are all joey smith's INVENTED RELIGION, nothing more. They are not from God.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Erundur

Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Joe Smith lied about all the things he came out with...all the stuff about seeing angels...all the stuff about digging up things...all that stuff was a lie that he wanted to use to get the two things he was always after....

#1 - money
#2- sex with other women besides his wife.

So trusting in any of the claims by Smith leads you down a dark path....to ****ation---





But on the other hand....
If you want to spend the rest of eternity cooking in the Lake of Fire?...then dont pay any attention to what Im saying...
(my warnings are aimed at people who have doubts about Smith's claims.)

[Erundur]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

Joe Smith lied about all the things he came out with...all the stuff about seeing angels...all the stuff about digging up things...all that stuff was a lie that he wanted to use to get the two things he was always after....

#1 - money
#2- sex with other women besides his wife.

So trusting in any of the claims by Smith leads you down a dark path....to ****ation---

But how does this favor Protestantism? Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Erundur

But how does this favor Protestantism? Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?

maybe they don't understand what a logical answer should look like.

[Christian]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

maybe they don't understand what a logical answer should look like.

What praytell, do YOU know about logic?

We CHRISTIANS live by the Word of God (the BIBLE). We do NOT follow false prophets, charlitans, fairytale spinners such as joseph smith, david koresh, jim jones or the like. INSTEAD, we serve the LORD as the BIBLE has revealed HIM.

You mormons may follow joey smith if you wish.

But ANY CHRISTIAN church beats following the fraud and false prophet joey smith.

Perhas YOU don't understand what the TRUTH looks like. . .

[Christian]

kid posted

Originally Posted by ChristianWhat praytell, do YOU know about logic?

We CHRISTIANS live by the Word of God (the BIBLE). We do NOT follow false prophets, charlitans, fairytale spinners such as joseph smith, david koresh, jim jones or the like. INSTEAD, we serve the LORD as the BIBLE has revealed HIM.

You mormons may follow joey smith if you wish.

But ANY CHRISTIAN church beats following the fraud and false prophet joey smith.

Perhaps YOU don't understand what the TRUTH looks like. . .

Yeah because we Mormons never know anything about logic (please tell me you know what sarcasm is).

It's a cheap form of humor YOU are trying to learn to use, apparently. . .

You have never lived by what the scriptures teach, just what you've been taught through tradition.

PLEASE TELL US WHO TAUGHT ME through 'tradition?' I have lived by what the SCRIPTURES (THE BIBLE) teach for about 43 years now. . .I have studied the Bible for over a half-century.

How much STUDY OF THE BIBLE ALONE DO YOU DO? A couple minutes a day, with your mormon junk telling you 'what it must mean?'

I'll never follow those who are Protestants.

I've never met a member of the protestant religion. Where are their headquarters? Where are their leaders.

THE TRUTH IS that the roman catholic religion INVENTED the 'protestant religion,' an imaginary group in which they "lump" ALL non-CATHOLICS including mormons, branch davidians, jonestown temple folks, etc.

I don't follow any members of any 'protestant religion' either. I follow the Jesus Christ of the BIBLE, the GOD OF THE BIBLE, and none other.

They do not believe in prophets, except dead ones.

So you don't believe the prophets of the BIBLE are alive and well in heaven? They are just 'DEAD?'

I pity you.

The 'prophets' of your cult haven't been able to PROPHESY in over 75 years that I am aware of. NO NEW REVELATION FROM THEM! Just the same old dung.

They do not believe in revelation, except those which already came.

YOUR CULT doesn't believe in 'continuing revelation,' though they claim to. THE TRUTH IS that your 'prophets' for many generations have been COMPLETELY UNABLE TO PROPHESY or to reveal ANYTHING NEW FROM GOD AT ALL.

They do not believe in the priesthood, something that was an essential teaching in the New Testament church.

Yet you cannot find ONE SINGLE AARONIC PRIEST in the New Testament church, NOR ONE SINGLE MELCHIZEDEK PRIEST other than Jesus Christ and Melchizedek himself ANYWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH.

SHOW US YOUR "MORMON PRIESTHOODS" IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IF YOU THINK YOU CAN FIND THEM!
They don't seem to BE there. . .ANYWHERE

They do not believe we lived with God even though the Bible says we did.

WHEN AND WHERE does the BIBLE say you ever lived with God. CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE!

More fantasyland from the kid.

There is no protestant church that can come close to the church of Jesus Christ. Protestants don't understand truth because they reject the Holy Ghost.

Please SHOW US EVEN ONE CHRISTIAN church that rejects the Holy Ghost. We REJECT YOUR DEMONS. The Holy Ghost lives WITHIN EVERY CHRISTIAN EVERYWHERE (Romans 8:1-11)

Rev 21:8
8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
NKJV

I will continue to pray for your lost soul.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Erundur

Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?

I believe that Mormonism is false based only on the fact that Joe Smith lied and made up the whole wild story about angels and finding stuff.

This means that I believe that all Mormons worship a false god....and have a false Christ.

This means that they are unforgiven, and are still in their sins when they die...and therefore doomed.
Joe Smith lied...He made up the whole stinking pile of ideas that he convinced others to believe in...


Joe did this for mostly 2 main reasons...
He wanted to turn the story into a way to earn easy money.
and,he wanted to cheat on his wife with other women.

Joe was a con man.

[Erundur]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

I believe that Mormonism is false based only on the fact that Joe Smith lied and made up the whole wild story about angels and finding stuff.

This means that I believe that all Mormons worship a false god....and have a false Christ.

This means that they are unforgiven, and are still in their sins when they die...and therefore doomed.
Joe Smith lied...He made up the whole stinking pile of ideas that he convinced others to believe in...


Joe did this for mostly 2 main reasons...
He wanted to turn the story into a way to earn easy money.
and,he wanted to cheat on his wife with other women.

Joe was a con man.

Again, how does any of this argue in favor of Protestantism?

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Erundur

Again, how does any of this argue in favor of Protestantism?

So what we want to search for is a Christian church that takes a STRONG stand against the type of hanky-panky that The Mormon Joe Smith was into and pushing...
We want to make sure that the Christian church we join takes a strong stand against the lies told by Smith...
We want to find a Christian church that has a strong outreach to the CULTS like the Mormons, so that we can get the research we need when we come into contact with the different non-Christian CULTS....

We want a church that holds that cheating on your wife with a little 14 year old girl is simply wrong.....

[Erundur]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

So what we want to search for is a Christian church that takes a STRONG stand against the type of hanky-panky that The Mormon Joe Smith was into and pushing...
We want to make sure that the Christian church we join takes a strong stand against the lies told by Smith...
We want to find a Christian church that has a strong outreach to the CULTS like the Mormons, so that we can get the research we need when we come into contact with the different non-Christian CULTS....

We want a church that holds that cheating on your wife with a little 14 year old girl is simply wrong.....

Okay, all I'm getting out of this is that you can't come up with a single reason why we should choose your church over ours.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Erundur

Okay, all I'm getting out of this is that you can't come up with a single reason why we should choose your church over ours.

well.....the stand the church takes against a pedophile like Joe Smith is about the first thing a person should check on to make sure of when you are looking at different religions.

Does the church totally reject people that think like Joe Smith who cheated on their wives?...or do they make excuses?....like Clinton?....

On the other hand....If you are turned on by little 14 year old girls?..if you want to cheat on your wife and get away with it?...if you want to raise the reputation of Satan to the level of actually beiing a brother of Jesus?.....Then the Mormons are the correct church for you!!!!!!

Enjoy the ride while you can,
Because you are going to be burning in hell for a long-long time

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by childofgod

So everyone in the Bible who had encounters with angels were con men then because they claimed to see angels like Mary did before the birth of Jesus? So you don't believe angels will be shown to anyone anymore? I guess Mary lied when she said an angel visited her.

The Clinton defense....LOL


cl***ic.....

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

The Clinton defense....LOL


cl***ic.....

Its like the other day when I pointed out to Mormon that Joe Smith is a Pedophile* and cheated on his wife with other women.
The defense the Mormon's came up with was to try to find other people in history that did the same thing as what they therefore have to admit Joe Smith was guilty of.

Notice the Mormons don't try to say "It never happened!"

Rather what they say is, "But other guys did the same thing!"

This is the same defense that President Clinton tried when he got caught with a young girl.

This type of defense is all a guy has left to try when they are caught red-handed...

Its an old defense....goes all the way back to the garden of Eden,and was first used when Adam pointed to his wife rather than admitting his sin and being prepared to face the fact that he was guilty and God knew it.

Mormons are the same way...
* http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm

[Christian]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

I believe that Mormonism is false based only on the fact that Joe Smith lied and made up the whole wild story about angels and finding stuff.

This means that I believe that all Mormons worship a false god....and have a false Christ.

This means that they are unforgiven, and are still in their sins when they die...and therefore doomed.
Joe Smith lied...He made up the whole stinking pile of ideas that he convinced others to believe in...


Joe did this for mostly 2 main reasons...
He wanted to turn the story into a way to earn easy money.
and,he wanted to cheat on his wife with other women.

Joe was a con man.

AMEN! You hit the nail on the head!
Joey was a con man!

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by Christian

AMEN! You hit the nail on the head!
Joey was a con man!

thanks!

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

I believe that Mormonism is false based only on the fact that Joe Smith lied and made up the whole wild story about angels and finding stuff.

This means that I believe that all Mormons worship a false god....and have a false Christ.

This means that they are unforgiven, and are still in their sins when they die...and therefore doomed.
Joe Smith lied...He made up the whole stinking pile of ideas that he convinced others to believe in...


Joe did this for mostly 2 main reasons...
He wanted to turn the story into a way to earn easy money.
and,he wanted to cheat on his wife with other women.

Joe was a con man.

now..as for what church should a person attend?...I always suggest a person go visit the local Christian churches in your local area and get a idea of where you think you might fit in and find a place.

As long as the chirstian church teaches the core teachings of the church, I think the next important thing is that the local church you become a member of is one that seems open to the type of person that you are.
Each person is a little different, and so the church that I pick out for myself is not always going to match what you should decide to attend.

[Christian]

Originally Posted by Erundur

But how does this favor Protestantism? Do you believe that if Mormonism is false, then Protestantism must be true by default?

"Protestantism?" WHAT RELIGION IS THAT? WHERE IS ITS HEADQUARTERS? WHO IS ITS LEADER?

Oh that's right. . .it is the imaginary 'dumping ground' of the roman catholics, in which they dump all NON-rcc religions, INCLUDING THE MORMON RELIGION.

So the utah lds religion is a protestant religion. . .BY DEFINITION

[Christian]

Originally Posted by Erundur

Protestants, this thread is for you to tell us why we should choose <insert favorite Protestant sect/movement here> over the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Objective reasons preferred, as opposed to subjective opinions and personal beliefs.

You should choose ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCH over the mormon non-Christian cult. It would be INFINITELY BETTER for any mormon to change from cultism to CHRISTIANITY, of course.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by childofgod

As Mormons, we are Christians. Biblical Christians..

No the Mormons are all LOST!
They are still lost in their sins...
The have "Dead Faith" because their faith is alone and without works, for the only work required is to believe in the true Jesus of the Bible...and as the Mormons reject the true Jesus of the Bible they have "Dead Faith"

People that have "Dead Faith" like the Mormons do, die without hope and burn for eternity in Hell's fire.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by childofgod

We believe in ....l.

Mormons believe in a lie.
Mormons believe in a false Jesus that has nothing to do with the Jesus of the Bible.
Mormons believe in following the teachings of a known pedophile.

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by alanmolstad

Mormons believe in a lie.
Mormons believe in a false Jesus that has nothing to do with the Jesus of the Bible.
Mormons believe in following the teachings of a known pedophile.

Mormons believe this Smith guy....its hard for me to understand how Mormons cant see what he was....but they believe his lies.

joe Smith came up with the idea that he would claim to find something like the Bible....and its not that hard to see how he came up with that idea after all, he was known at the time as a "money digger"

Money diggers are a hype...a film-flam man who would get people to give him money on the chance he would be able to find hidden money of their lands.
It easy to see how a guy who was in the business of fooling people and telling them a lie that he can find buried money would have the idea that a dream scam would be to claim to find something important like the Bible.

Thats how the idea started...

But claiming to find a lost bible is a lot more easy to do that proving you have that bible.
thats why we dont have that "found" bible today....LOL

Smith knew he could not let just anyone see his "found bible" because then people would not be as impressed with the story anymore once they learned that the "found Bible" was nothing more that a Sears catalog...LOL

But....Smith was a good story teller, and as any con-man knows the best lie is the one told to people that want to believe it.

Mormons want to believe the lie.
That is why the Lies of Smith go on and on ....

Tell a lie to someone who wants only the truth and the lie falls.
Tell a lie to someone who wants the lie to be true and you have a religion....

[alanmolstad]

Originally Posted by childofgod

Because we don't believe in what you believe in, you think we believe in a lie..

Mormons trust a lie, because they believe without question the lies told by a film-flam man , who dreamed up the whole "Oh hey I found a new Bible" story as a means to earn some free cash, and also a way to convince younger girls into his bed too....

Thus Mormons have no works to go along with their faith.
Faith without works is a dead.

This is why Mormons have a "dead faith" for they lack the only work that Jesus said must be, and that is to believe in the true Son.

Lacking this work, the Mormons and their "Dead faith" are unforgiven and thus when they die are condemned to the fire of Hell...