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    Grandma
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    Default Freedom from What?

    Who we are by nature determines the choices we make. Only God's grace can change us because we are in bondage to sin without God's grace.

    Adam wasn't in bondage to sin, nor was he sealed to righteousness as glorified saints are. He disobeyed God and we inherited a sin nature because of what he did.

    1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    In Romans 6:11 we read: In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 1 Corinthians 15:46 tells us that the natural man comes first, and afterwards the spiritual (when the Son sets us free).
    Apart from God's grace those who are in bondage to sin can't be set free.

    Jesus spoke to the unbelieving Jews, "42...If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."

    Acts 26
    15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. 16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; 17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, 18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.


    Mormon teaching is that Adam's fall was a blessing, because he and Eve were too innocent to have children until after the fall.


    "Adam and Eve had to break the lesser commandment, and incur the Fall, in order to fulfil the greater commandment.” (LDS Apostle McConkie, A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, pages 84, 91).

    The greater commandment was to have children, the lesser commandment was to not eat the forbidden fruit.

    Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 2
    19 And after Adam and Eve had partaken of the forbidden fruit they were driven out of the garden of Eden, to till the earth.

    20 And they have brought forth children; yea, even the family of all the earth.

    21 And the days of the children of men were prolonged, according to the will of God, that they might repent while in the flesh; wherefore, their state became a state of probation, and their time was lengthened, according to the commandments which the Lord God gave unto the children of men. For he gave commandment that all men must repent; for he showed unto all men that they were lost, because of the transgression of their parents.

    22 And now, behold, if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden. And all things which were created must have remained in the same state in which they were after they were created; and they must have remained forever, and had no end.

    23 And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.

    24 But behold, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knoweth all things.

    25 Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy.

    26 And the Messiah cometh in the fulness of time, that he may redeem the children of men from the fall. And because that they are redeemed from the fall they have become free forever, knowing good from evil; to act for themselves and not to be acted upon, save it be by the punishment of the law at the great and last day, according to the commandments which God hath given.

    Pearl of Great Price, Moses 5:8 (After the fall)

    9 And in that day the Holy Ghost fell upon Adam, which beareth record of the Father and the Son, saying: I am the Only Begotten of the Father from the beginning, henceforth and forever, that as thou hast fallen thou mayest be redeemed, and all mankind, even as many as will.

    10 And in that day Adam blessed God and was filled, and began to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth, saying: Blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy, and again in the flesh I shall see God.

    11 And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.

    Love in Christ,

    Grandma
    Last edited by Grandma; 09-20-2015 at 10:12 PM.

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