Joseph smith and ollie cowdery went out into the woods, played "church," ordained and baptized each other into their new religion and we Christians are supposed to believe their little game is 'from God?'
I don't think so!
Joseph smith and ollie cowdery went out into the woods, played "church," ordained and baptized each other into their new religion and we Christians are supposed to believe their little game is 'from God?'
I don't think so!
What are you talking about? Mormons have the Royal Priesthood, as you admitted in this thread.
What are you talking about? Mormons have the Royal Priesthood, as you admitted in this thread.
I clicked over to that linked topic...
First, I have a real problem with the way EVERYONE seems to post on that topic.
You guys got into the habit of quoting each other without really telling us who is being quoted or who is speaking.
You guys seem to think that if you put some words in color that this helps?.......it dont!
Now....as for the suggestion that the poster known here CHRISTIAN has "admitted" something about the Mormon "Royal Priesthood"on that linked topic?......well ,show us where?
There are a lot of pages, lots of posts....so Im afraid you are going to need to point to the post number # so that you can back-up your comment about Christian admitting stuff.
What post number?
In post #2 I pointed out that if Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then the subject is off-topic and should be posted in another forum.
In post #3 "Christian" confirmed that this is the correct forum to discuss the subject, admitting that Mormons have the Royal Priesthood.
ahh....no...that's just a conclusion you want to draw...In post #2 I pointed out that if Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then the subject is off-topic and should be posted in another forum.
In post #3 "Christian" confirmed that this is the correct forum to discuss the subject, admitting that Mormons have the Royal Priesthood.
And, truthfully...you really dont got much to support that conclusion.
But on the other hand , if you really want to know what opinion CHRISTIAN has on the topic?, just ask him.
You dont need to try to force it...
Besides no one is going to trust your opinion if you are so clearly attempting to force that conclusion anyway...
(And you dont want to come off looking as if doing that correct?)
So if you want to know where CHRISTIAN stands on the issue?, just ask him?
or if you are busy I can ask him?
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Im afraid so.....
Check post #8
this is why I think your conclusion is so laughable....and I would not be surprised that someone points out that your conclusion is clearly misrepresenting another guest's views....
No one has the right to say in effect, "Only people that agree with "position A" can post on this topic and as you posted on the topic it therefore must mean you agree with position "A"
Now so that you truly understand what Im saying, I will go over this for you:
First I will quote you -
"In post #2 I pointed out that if Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then the subject is off-topic and should be posted in another forum.
In post #3 "Christian" confirmed that this is the correct forum to discuss the subject, admitting that Mormons have the Royal Priesthood. "
In the upper line of your quote you state that "if Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then the subject is off-topic and should be posted in another forum."
I look at that quote and ask, "Says who?"
I mean, face the facts of life guy....a check of any topic on this whole forum shows you that topics tend to go wandering all over the map...and that even a few that do stay tight to the single topic do have to allow some wiggle-room for different points of view.
Now lets look at the ***le of this topic - it says - "Still no mormon 'authority.'
From this ***le that is given for this conversation we can expect different views on the subject of "Mormon Authority"....
So we should expect to find some people posting comments who do support Mormon Authority, and some people that do not.
I dont believe Mormons have any real authority, or any calling from God, or any (let me quote this) , any " Royal Priesthood".
Thus I believe I am posting my anti-Royal Priesthood views here on this topic correctly.
The subject here is dealing with the idea that the Mormons don't have any authority, and Im in agreement with the ***le statement to that effect.
the truth is....when you look at the ***le of this topic, "still no mormon 'authority.'" it actually looks more like the people that disagree with that and do believe that Mormons have authority are the ones who are actually stepping outside the given ***le's topic.....
But like I said, even if felt the pro-Mormon Authority side of the question should not post on a clearly Anti-authority topic, I would not try to stop them!
AND.....and I would not try to ***ume that because Erundur posted on a clearly "Anti-mormon Authority" topic that must mean he admits the Mormons have no authority.
I would not do that, nor post that, as it would be wrong to knowingly misrepresent your views like that....
(the Golden Rule again)
So lets not do that again...ok?
I'm afraid not. In post #8 I reasoned:
If Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then this is the wrong forum to talk about it.
But this is not the wrong forum to talk about it.
Therefore, Mormons have the Royal Priesthood.
I said nothing about automatically totally agreeing with me. You are misrepresenting what I said--let's not do that again...ok?
who says?
Mormons dont have any Royal priesthood, and this is a great topic to talk about that on....
The topic here is what again?.......what isit?
The topic here is - [B]"still no mormon 'authority.'[/B]
So really anything dealing with the fact that there is no type of Mormon authority is fair game here...
Thus if I decide to only talk about the lack of any type of real authority including a "royal priesthood" this is a good place to begin that conversation...
case-closed
The owners of the board. You realize this is the "Mormonism (LDS)" forum, don't you?
You realize I'm talking about the "WHO has more authority than I do" thread, don't you?The topic here is what again?.......what isit?
The topic here is - [B]"still no mormon 'authority.'[/B]
If I ever wanted to know what you were talking about I would ask you...(see post #18 for more clarification)
Right now Im asking Christian what his views are on the lack of any real Mormon authority?
Mod editIn post #2 I pointed out that if Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then the subject is off-topic and should be posted in another forum.
In post #3 "Christian" confirmed that this is the correct forum to discuss the subject, admitting that Mormons have the Royal Priesthood.
The ***le of this topic is "Still no Mormon 'authority.'"
It might mean something to you, it might mean a different thing to me...it might mean a totally different thing to another person.
So both your ideas are just so silly and juvenile .
( they actually make me wonder just how old a person is Im dealing with?)
If CHRISTIAN believes he has something important to offer this topic, who are we to say he has no right to do so?
Just because we think his points of views are a bit different on the topic than our own does not mean that he cant share them.....correct?
If CHRISTIAN believes this is the correct topic to share his views on, (and you asked him about that and he clearly does) More power to him!
You should welcome him to the conversation and look forward to reading his comments.(The Golden Rule type of response)
No they're not. If Mormons don't have the Royal Priesthood, then "Christian"'s boasting about his supposed authority has no place in the Mormonism forum because there is no connection to Mormonism. If you feel there is a connection, feel free to enlighten me.
A guest might have all kinds of different views on many things that might come up in a conversation about the lack of Mormon authority.
Thus we should not stand in the way of a guest feeling free to come to this topic called "still no mormon 'authority.'
and posting whatever they feel inspired to post.
We should not criticize a guest's right to post here because from the given ***le still no mormon 'authority.'and the common manner this forum does tend to have conversations evolve, we should welcome and expect all kinds a different points of view on the topic.
Therefor your conclusion that just because a person posted on this topic it has to mean they have to agree with you on it........
...........is..........
.......silly.
Should we stand in the way of someone pointing out that the guest has taken inconsistent positions on the topic?A guest might have all kinds of different views on many things that might come up in a conversation about the lack of Mormon authority.
Thus we should not stand in the way of a guest feeling free to come to this topic called "still no mormon 'authority.'
and posting whatever they feel inspired to post.
Except I didn't conclude that, now did I?Therefor your conclusion that just because a person posted on this topic it has to mean they have to agree with you on it........
see post #18.....
if you want to know what Christian thinks, ask Christian what he thinks.
In the same way....
If you want to know what I think of all the claims of Mormon authority, just ask....
see post #18.....
if you want to know what Christian thinks, ask Christian what he thinks.
In the same way....
If you want to know what I think of all the claims of Mormon authority, just ask....
erunder posted:
Originally Posted by alanmolstad [IMG]http://www.waltermartin.com/forums/images/****ons/viewpost-right.png[/IMG]
A guest might have all kinds of different views on many things that might come up in a conversation about the lack of Mormon authority.
Thus we should not stand in the way of a guest feeling free to come to this topic called "still no mormon 'authority.'
and posting whatever they feel inspired to post.
Why don't you like me posting the TRUTH? Does it REALLY hurt that badly?
Should we stand in the way of someone pointing out that the guest has taken inconsistent positions on the topic?
My position has not been inconsistent at all. I have stated clearly many times that joe smith (your cult's founder and inventor) was a fraud, a fake, a liar and a common con-man criminal who tried to shoot his way out of jail, and that his newly-invented religion is NOT FROM GOD AT ALL, and that your mormon religion HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ANYONE OUTSIDE ITSELF AT ALL. NOTHING FROM GOD AT ALL either.
Except I didn't conclude that, now did I?Therefor your conclusion that just because a person posted on this topic it has to mean they have to agree with you on it........
I don't know if it went through your own little mind loud enough for YOU to hear it, but it is obvious to the REST OF US that appears to be what you conclude. . .REGULARLY about MANY OF OUR POSTS.