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    If water-witching is not part of the occult, and Hos. 4:12 does not have anything against the practice of using divining rods?....then he is not an occutist....

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    Yes or No Alan. I wish there was a rule about evading questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    Yes or No Alan.
    If water-witching is not part of the occult, and Hos. 4:12 does not have anything against the practice of using divining rods?....then he is not an occutist...

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    So Alan, are you saying that Ron Wyatt was an occultist ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    So Alan, are you saying that Ron Wyatt was an occultist ?
    If water-witching is not part of the occult, and Hos. 4:12 does not have anything against the practice of using divining rods?....then he is not an occultist...

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    And round and round we go. Alan why can't you just give a straight forward answer of yes or no ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    And round and round we go. Alan why can't you just give a straight forward answer of yes or no ?
    If water-witching is not part of the occult, and Hos. 4:12 does not have anything against the practice of using divining rods?....then he is not an occutist...

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    Is there a rule against evading questions and spamming canned responses ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    Is there a rule against evading questions and spamming canned responses ?
    You know Im not really sure, is there a rule against asking the same question over and over and over?....

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    OK I'll word it a different way.... Are you accusing him of being an occultist ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    OK I'll word it a different way.... Are you accusing him of being an occultist ?
    Ok let me say this a different way too...

    If the bible does not condemn the use of Divining rods, http://biblehub.com/hosea/4-12.htm then how can he be guilty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    Is there a rule against evading questions and spamming canned responses ?
    You know Im not really sure, is there a rule against asking the same question over and over and over?....

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    Where did you see him using a divining rod ? Was it in the video ?
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    If water-witching is not part of the occult , then how can we condemn him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    Where did you see him using a divining rod ? Was it in the video ?
    ah,,,,so you are a bit unfamiliar with what he was doing to provethe Ark was there?....

    before we go check on what he was doing....I have posted a few videos of people using diving rods and doing what we call "water-witching".
    What is your view of this practice?


    It is condemned in the Bible?

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    is it condemned, yes or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    ah,,,,so you are a bit unfamiliar with what he was doing to provethe Ark was there?....

    before we go check on what he was doing....I have posted a few videos of people using diving rods and doing what we call "water-witching".
    What is your view of this practice?


    It is condemned in the Bible?


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    see here is the deal...

    If you are one of them guys that thinks things like a Ouija board or a diving rod is not a big deal and is perfectly fine for a Christian to use?...then what is the point in my telling you that the guy used such things to support his claim about the Ark?....

    If you think its totally fine then whats the problem?

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    Occultism is defenitiely condemned in Scripture Absolutely.
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    On the other hand....

    If you believe that any Christian that makes use of diving rods is committing a sin?....then we can move to the next step and deal with the guy's way of proving his claims about finding the Ark....


    So its really up to the individual as to if the guy was into the occult or not.

    If you personally believe that the use of diving rods is condemned by the Bible as i have quoted in the vrse, then you will come to the conclusion that the guy was an occultist.

    On the other hand....

    If you got no problem with Ouija boards and diving rods?...then you are of the conclusion that the guy was ust a fine upstanding Christian...

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    I answered your question but you still refuse to answer my question in the introduction thread.
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    So where did you see him doing that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    So where did you see him doing that ?
    would it matter to you if you learned that he did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    would it matter to you if you learned that he did?

    Yes it would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    Yes it would.
    http://noahsarksearch.com/ronwyatt.htm


    "However, we have the following objections and observations:

    (a) At least one of the detection devices used in this survey is certainly not scientifically valid, and is forbidden in the Bible (Deut. 18:10) as a tool of divination. This device is given the high-sounding name of molecular frequency generator, but in reality is nothing more than br*** welding rods used as divining rods.

    Advertising for such gadgets can be seen in the back of any treasure hunting magazine. The br*** welding rods are bent at 90 degrees near the ends and placed in sleeves for ease of movement. They are both connected by wires to a set of flashlight batteries which one carries in his pocket. The electrical source is supposed to make the device more sensitive!

    Then an actual frequency generator (presumably from a kit purchased at any Radio Shack store) is placed nearby. If one wants to look for gold then the frequency generator is tuned to emit the inaudible frequency of gold. How this frequency generator effects the br*** rods is unknown.

    We consulted four qualified scientists about this gadget and they were unanimous that there were no scientific principles being employed. Two of these scientists built and tested working models.

    When questioned about how the parallel lines were drawn in the formation Wyatt claimed that they were not only found by the above mentioned divining rods but also with two other kinds of metal detection machines. If this be so, then more tests are called for. "

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