step one....if you cant stand the news...blame the messenger....
step one....if you cant stand the news...blame the messenger....
Hi Alan,
My last comment has nothing to do with whether the stories are true or false, people can believe whatever they want.
I'm saying sources like you linked to shine a bad light on you. I tell you because of the love we should have for one another.
This Thread is Not about YEC . It Is About Suppressed Evidence of Dinosaurs living among men.
Please post YEC/Evolution responses in the Creationism vs Evolution section. Please.
sorry I dont feel like it....
I believe that they are connected...
the Young Earth Creation teachings are strongly connected to the idea that men lived with the dinos....
there is even the idea out of some websites that dinos were on the genesis flood ark.....
So that is why I will post here all the proof I can find that all the so-called Evidence that Dinos live among men is ...."FAKE!
Its all fake....
Every shred of proof used to support that men lives with dinos is totally 100% fake....
Last edited by alanmolstad; 04-07-2016 at 08:23 AM.
The stories the men lived with Dinos are false....
they are fake stories that trick Christians into believing things that are simply not true.
and I dont give a rip if the guy who made the website I link to is a christian or not...!!
I only care that the information found at a website can be proved.
so telling me that my linking to a non-christian site make me look bad is a moot point.
I dont care!
what do I care about?.......I care about truth!
I care about facts that can be proved.
What Im finding is that the YEC websites we see listed that support the idea that men lived with the dinos are misleading Christians.
They lie.
They fake proof.
They spread lies...
They tell lies to people that are easy to fool because they want to believe no matter what.
Im going to tell the real truth about such YEC websites....
And Im just getting started!
now as for the idea that some art with what looks like a dino on it proves anything?....thats just not at all true and never was true.
The art we find only represents what the artist aimed with it...and we may never know that answer.
Its like in a million years they find a plastic cover from a old Jur***ic Park DVD ...they would have to understand it in the correct context or else they may come away from it thinking that in the past people lived with dinos and made movies with them .
Obviously. How about proving what you say about evolution going hand in hand with scripture
from the bible. No Darwin, no unproven theories, no non-Christian sources who by the way the bible
tells us are enemies of God. No more diversions about light or un-ending 7th days, how about some
scripture that shows that man evolved from apes or any other creature and was not created as man
in God's image, just the way it is recorded in Genesis. You can't.
I think you misunderstood something..>Obviously. How about proving what you say about evolution going hand in hand with scripture
from the bible. No Darwin, no unproven theories, no non-Christian sources who by the way the bible
tells us are enemies of God. No more diversions about light or un-ending 7th days, how about some
scripture that shows that man evolved from apes or any other creature and was not created as man
in God's image, just the way it is recorded in Genesis. You can't.
Have I ever said that the bible 'taught" evolution?
I will pause now while to think back.....
What we find in the Bible is a story that works with evolution to give us a well-rounded understanding of early earth history.
the story of genesis and the teachings of evolution are able to walk hand in hand with each other.
This does not mean that the teachings of evolution hold that "God did it"
Nor does this mean that in the Genesis text we see the word "evolution" at any point.
What we do find however is that the two works are able to work next to each other.
We find no anti-evolution arguments in the genesis text.
and...most importantly...both Genesis and Evolution trace back all life to the same original source...
Another thing i hear from time to time in the church is that "man" is far different than animals such as the great apes.
They like to point out to me that man is made in the image of God.
My response to this is to just point out that in the bible it will trace back both humans and animals such as the great apes to a common source....(as is taught happens in evolution).
i also point out that while in Mormon teachings, the ideal of a human "body" being in God's image is taught, however in real Christian teachings we do not teach that our human body is made in the image of god...for God does not have a body.
I also note that on this forum I have asked 3 questions of anyone who wants to try to answer them about what the bible says...
up until this moment I have yet to see anyone dare answer my 3 questions...
the reason?...they know deep down what im saying is what the bible says too.......(they just dont like that fact)
want to prove me wrong?....fine, open your bible and lets go over a few verses I have found .....
but you wont.....I know you wont.
No YEC believer wants to actually open the Bible and read whats found there, cuz they are too busy telling others that they are sinning by reading the Bible and believeing it.
I read the Bible.
I believe the Bible.
You want to show me Im wrong?....then you better be ready to open your Bible and read what it says there, because im not interested in your views on the way things "look" to others.
Im only interested in what is writen in the Bible....what i can point to in black and white.
If you cant show me your views based on the Bible?...then you are a moot point.
YEC believers that cant or wont open their Bible and answer a few questions about what it says there , are only proving to me that they doubt their own ideas.
and if you dont trust your ideas, why should I?
Last edited by alanmolstad; 04-07-2016 at 10:31 AM.
Alan, is evolution a man-made, unproven theory or not? Of course it is. As one who seems to have interest in science you would know that macroevolution has never been observed in the world or duplicated in any lab or experiment. If you believe what evolution says it's because you have faith in that theory. You can't have faith in evolution and the bible, only one can be true.I read the Bible.
I believe the Bible.
You want to show me Im wrong?....then you better be ready to open your Bible and read what it says there, because im not interested in your views on the way things "look" to others.
Im only interested in what is writen in the Bible....what i can point to in black and white.
If you cant show me your views based on the Bible?...then you are a moot point.
Romans 1:18-23
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things."
and you cant back up squat with the bible...and so switch to try to attack evolution because your support from the bible is so weak.Alan, is evolution a man-made, unproven theory or not? Of course it is. As one who seems to have interest in science you would know that macroevolution has never been observed in the world or duplicated in any lab or experiment. If you believe what evolution says it's because you have faith in that theory. You can't have faith in evolution and the bible, only one can be true.
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But i defend my teachings with the BIBLE!
I give you bible verses to support all that i say.
I never defend evolution, so you can go right a head and cut down evolution all you want.
The way you keep trying to change the subject and attacking evolution just shows me how out of gas your defense of YEC really is....
Open your Bible friend...Read what it says there....try that for a change.
Alan,and you cant back up squat with the bible...and so switch to try to attack evolution because your support from the bible is so weak.
But i defend my teachings with the BIBLE!
I give you bible verses to support all that i say.
I never defend evolution, so you can go right a head and cut down evolution all you want.
The way you keep trying to change the subject and attacking evolution just shows me how out of gas your defense of YEC really is....
Open your Bible friend...Read what it says there....try that for a change.
Just once answer the question. Is evolution a man-made, unproven theory or not?
nope.....I dont defend evolution...
sorry....Im not qualified to teach on evolution.....
But the Bible I know..
The Bible I can teach!>>>>>so if you want me to answer a question, better make it a bible question.
and I got to tell you, the way you keep ducking my Bible questions only proves to me how out of gas your argument must be...
If you cant pick up the Bible and answer my questions, why right do you have to say Im wrong???????????????????????????????
Please don't be. Glad to see you and Alan. not that that makes a hoot of a difference. But I'll take this up in a thread of my own describing this foolishness sometime soon.
But in that same vein for either you, Alan, or any who cares to make a point:
What are God's people left with when articulation falls short on any issue before them?
Just out of curiosity.
People that have views that they can't support with the bible show us only that their views are based on their personal opinions rather than the bible.
In the past, when someone actually did dare to try to answer my question from a YEC point of view, they would try to tell me what the verse I listed "means"...rather than just want it 'says'
The reason they do this?...they dont like what it says.....so they try to change the topic and tell me what it means rather than what we all can see clearly is says...
1st Peter 3:15
Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.