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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    You still got no Bible verses to back that stuff up yet?
    after all this time you still cant find a single verse to support your views?

    We are supposed to be ready "always" to give to every person a reason for our faith in things...
    Member Jude has brought up a couple of times the likelihood of evolution being Demonic. After a certain extent in this hypothesis is undertaken, committed to, meditated upon, yes, I can see why the Apostles would have destroyed this consideration in the cradle:

    “We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,” (II Cor 10:5)

    Well, there is another verse. With this verse in mind, how do you sanitize lofty evolution to the obedience of Christ when it isn’t concerned with what the Apostles were taking about:

    “For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified” (I Cor 2:2)

    Woe, , Bang, another verse to sink that ship of Gospel contention.

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    kids at home:

    watch how they never ask me,,,"Where does it say that in the bible?"

    watch how they never want to talk about the Bible verses I use....never..




    they dont dare...

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    I just supplied a comment w/verses. Where is my comment?

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    post it again,,,,,

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    We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,” (II Cor 10:5)
    This by the way is a verse defending my action in challenging the evil teachings of the YEc movement...

    Im instructed to go forward!~....and you know i will...LOL

    want to disagree with me?...fine...

    Pick up the story of genesis that im quoting all the time and see if what im saying there is true?




    Here is your first question...."What does it say at genesis 1:1 that god created first "in the beginning"?"



    Notice Im not asking 'what did it mean?"
    Im just asking what does it "say?"

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    and when you answer that.....I have your next question ready for you to chew on....

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    Context is trashed Alan. You first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaellS View Post
    Where did you get that one verse I used?
    dont you know that answer?

    You use a verse you cant find now or something?...LOL

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    You next question....

    "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

    Now this term "heavens" has many meanings in different context in the Bible.

    I was just wondering, could the term "Heavens" be understood to ever be talking about the entire canopy of stars in the night sky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    somewhere along the line,,,I simply have not gotten it across to people here, that "Alan does not defend evolution!"




    Im not sure how else to post that fact?

    Would Bigger letters help? Alan does not defend evolution!"




    Im a Bible student...the bible i know...the Bible i quote in all my posts...the bible I can deal with.

    thats also why no one dares ask me Bible type questions...cuz they know im up to speed on the bible....LOL
    Alan,

    you just said evolution is a natural law, any scientist will tell you it is not a natural law. Were you mistaken?
    Why won't you admit that it is a theory? Too prideful or just misinformed.

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    Simplicity, remember? Evolution is raised squarely counter to the Apostle's tradition of permissiveness.

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    3rd Question for you to answer:

    In the King James Bible we have the added words always placed within brackets []
    http://genius.com/Holy-bible-kjv-genesis-1-annotated

    when you look at Genesis 1:16 in the king James, what words appear in brackets [ ] to show us they were added?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaellS View Post
    Simplicity, remember? Evolution is raised squarely counter to the Apostle's tradition of permissiveness.
    you know...unless you want to take this conversation a bit more serious and try to have a scripture to back up things, Im not even going to read your comments any more..

    I have asked you over and over to back up anything you believe about genesis with the text and you have FAILED to do that.


    you can think about that for a while.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    Alan,

    you just said evolution is a natural law, any scientist will tell you it is not a natural law. Were you mistaken?
    Why won't you admit that it is a theory? Too prideful or just misinformed.
    again you hope I dont notice you got no scripture again?......how sad

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    Sound thinkers here know when you couple those two verse

    II Cor 10:5

    I Cor 2:2

    The message is clear straight from the Apostles

    Barred is any other message unrelated to Christ, including un-realated high-thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    3rd Question for you to answer:

    In the King James Bible we have the added words always placed within brackets []
    http://genius.com/Holy-bible-kjv-genesis-1-annotated

    when you look at Genesis 1:16 in the king James, what words appear in brackets [ ] to show us they were added?
    oh this is a tricky question,,,someone might actually need to look at what the bible says to answer it?

    Or ......they can just go back to posting about how "Evolution is written by the Boogey Man under my bed" and hope I dont catch them changing the topic again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaellS View Post
    Sound thinkers here know when you couple those two verse

    II Cor 10:5

    I Cor 2:2

    The message is clear straight from the Apostles

    Barred is any other message unrelated to Christ, including un-realated high-thought.
    Let me know when you get to talking about Genesis...I will pay attention to that post....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    again you hope I dont notice you got no scripture again?......how sad
    Come on Alan, why would I need a scripture to point out your error about evolution being a natural law?

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    Once again, pride over warning.

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    so........

    I guess that because no one is able to open a Bible around here, and answer a few questions about what it says in the text, Im going to have to now go over my questions for you guys, and show you what the Bible is saying....



    lets start with the first question-

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    Here is your first question...."What does it say at genesis 1:1 that god created first "in the beginning"?"

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    and.....here is the answer:

    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.



    The very first thing the bible lists that god created in the beginning at Genesis 1:1 is 'the heavens"

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    Oh well another attempt at reasonable discussion disregarded.

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    "The heavens",,,,is the correct answer.

    Oh i know the YEc teachers dont like that answer...they dont like it one bit!

    I say, "tough darts" ....."deal with it"



    The bible says that the heavens was the first thing God created in the beginning, and so thats what i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    Oh well another attempt at reasonable discussion disregarded.
    over and over i ask people to open their Bible and see if the verse im quoting is true?


    You dont want to do that it seems?....


    fine..You can lead a horse to water, but you cant get them to read the book of genesis it seems....



    If you dont got a verse?...if you dont have a question abut a verse i used?...then dont ask me to pay any attention to you...I mean, why should I?

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