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    next.....


    Im going to list here now one of the core ideas that support my views.
    If you want to truly help me see the "real truth" then all Im asking you to do is prove with the bible that what I say the Bible says in black and white is not actually what the Bible says in black and white...

    on a side note:
    What you are about to see true about me is that I dont try to force the Bible to mean things.
    What I do is I look to first what does the bible really say?...then I look at all the other verses tooand learn what is literally says there.

    I then have a better chance to get what the verse "means" when I clearly understand what it simply says in black and white first.
    I dont post a verse and then quickly have to add, "But while it says one thing , it must mean something else"

    I like to first understand what it says....and get simple agreement on that first ,before we go to what it means.

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    I said : "I can show that at Genesis 1:1 the Bible says that God created the "Heavens" first in the beginning."

    This actually is the central core idea I hang all things after on.

    Attack this idea!...

    Show me that what I say the bible says in black and white is not what the Bible says in black and white at all !

    Prove to me I misquoted the verse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    Prove to me I misquoted the verse!
    But if you cant, or if you dont?


    Then get off my case!




    If Im correctly quoting the verse, and you dont doubt this at all, and this verse is the central core idea to all my teaching, and you cant say anything against the way i quote the verse?


    Then Im right, and the YEC teachers are wrong, and thats just the way it is....
    Im not interested in any junk you want to add to this or that...Im not interested in why my views are wrong if you cant even show me that I misquoted the very first verse I listed!

    So if you got nothing?....Then get off my case because Im right, anybody can see that, and you know it too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    Im right, anybody can see that, and you know it too!

    You believe that we are still in the creation week of Genesis and that a day really means millions of years.



    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jude1:3 View Post
    You believe that we are still in the creation week of Genesis and that a day really means millions of years.

    6 days have very clear ending correct?
    Do you doubt this fact?........


    The 7th day has no clear ending like the other 6 days correct?.....

    There is no verse in Genesis that says. "And there was evening, and there was morning—the Seventh day."
    You doubt that?...then show me the verse!


    There is no verse in the whole Old Testament that says. "And there was evening, and there was morning—the Seventh day."
    You doubt that?...then show me the verse!

    There in no verse in the entire Bible that says - " "And there was evening, and there was morning—the Seventh day."
    You doubt that?...then show me the verse!


    If you got nothing?
    If you got not a single verse in the whole Bible that teaches just as clearly that the 7th day has ended just like it has endings for the first 6 days?....then get off my case!

    Im not interested at all in your opinions of what Im saying.


    Im only interested in what you can show me out of the bible in black and white!

    Show me where it has an ending to the 7th day and you have a case...


    But if you cant show me that, then you dont got squat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    The 7th day has no clear ending like the other 6 days correct?.....


    Not just days, but Thousands Of Years have p***ed since then.
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    still no verse to back that talk up?



    Then you ain't got squat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    still no verse to back that talk up?


    And all the Days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty Years: and he died. - Genesis 5:5
    Last edited by jude1:3; 08-10-2016 at 06:04 PM.
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    I still dont see a verse that says the 7th day of creation is over...


    Let me help you so you know what to look for....

    read the ending to the 1st day
    Then the 2nd

    Then the 3rd

    Then the 4th and the 5th and the 6th....

    All the days of the creation week end the very same way.

    This is not an accident!


    Now just look for the same type of ending to the 7th day....


    its that simple....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    I still dont see a verse that says the 7th day of creation is over...


    It plainly says that years have p***ed not just says.
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    Have I ever said that years had not p***ed?

    However Im asking if you can find a verse that clearly says the 7th day of the creation week has ended just as it goes into such detail over the ending of the other 6 days that have p***ed.

    Clearly you cant, so you dont got a case, you dont got squat....




    You know Im right!

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    Years have p***ed since then so the creation week is clearly over.
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    whats the matter....a bit of trouble finding that verse?...

    Have you checked Ken Hams website?

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    And all the Days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty Years: and he died. - Genesis 5:5



    But days really mean millions of years right ?
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    Im asking for what the Bible says in Black and white!!!!!!


    Im not asking, "What do you think it means?"
    I dont care what you think it means.



    Im asking - "Where does it clearly state that the 7th day has ended just as it clearly states the first 6 days ended?"





    Is there such a clear ending or is there not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    Im asking for what the Bible says in Black and white!!!!!!


    And all the Days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty Years: and he died . - Genesis 5:5
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    still cant find that verse eh?

    Gosh it must be frustrating.... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    still cant find that verse eh?



    I Already found the verse that said Years have p***ed....



    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    still looking for the verse that teaches just as clearly that the 7th day ended, as it teaches that the first 6 days ended...


    and unless you got a verse?...you dont got squat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    still looking for the verse that teaches just as clearly that the 7th day ended, as it teaches that the first 6 days ended...


    and unless you got a verse?...you dont got squat!




    And all the Days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty Years: and he died. - Genesis 5:5



    There you go.
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    yes,,,,It must be so frustrating.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    yes,,,,It must be so frustrating.....

    It must be frustrating to you that no one buys in to your Heretical Theistic Evolution.
    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    yes,,,,It must be so frustrating.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    yes,,,,It must be so frustrating.....


    The Fruits of Macroevolution are: Atheism, Social Darwinism, Racism, Eugenics and No Moral Absolutes.

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    6 days with very clear ending....

    each of the endings is written the very same way.....no way to miss them.

    The writer of Genesis is making a strong point by doing this.
    He clearly wants us to know for 100% that 6 of the creation week days have ended!


    but this also points us to the lack of any ending on the 7th day....

    There is no way to miss that point the writer of Genesis is making too.

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