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    In Revelation 21, it says that we can anticipate a new creation. The reason for the new heaven and new earth is because the first heaven and first earth will have p***ed away. 2 Peter 3:10 tells us, “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will p*** away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.”
    When God created the world, things were as they ought to be. The fall then put things out of order; the creation of God was spoiled. This now comes under the judgment of God, and he will “recreate” what he did in the first place--create a new heaven and a new earth so all will be right.
    The question is since God is unchanging, the same yesterday, today and forever, will He need more of those “million year days”, the length of which evolutionists seem to believe original creation days were, to create the new heaven and new earth?

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    although there is no clear ending to the 7th day of Genesis listed in the Bible...the closest we come is the verse at Revelation 21:1.
    The listing of the heavens the earth and the sea does closely correspond to the listing at the start of Genesis of the heaves and the earth and the deep/waters

    There could be a strong case to be made that Revelation 21:1is the official ending of the 7th day of creation and the beginning of the 8th day of God's creative work.

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    Lol, can you say poof?! No problem here in repenting from any pre-conceived fabrication, bring on the new Lord, steal and p*** it all away, it is all retain for yourself. Amen!

    “Jesus replied, "It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority.” (Acts 1:7)

    Loved what He said is meant for us to know when they asked about “time”!!!

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    So on the topic of the way the Bible makes use of the word "DAY" what we see is that this term is used to talk about amounts of time that stretch on to being at times unending.

    An example is when the Bible talks about "The day of the Lord'...it does not mean for one moment that this is only a short blip of 24 hours, and then things go right back to the way they were.

    And when the Bible talks about the "A day of vengeance" we are talking about in that context of a much longer amount of time that just one brief 24 hours, and then the whole world goes back to normal....LOL

    consider also: Ezekiel 30:3-4
    "For the day is near, Even the day of the LORD is near; It will be a day of clouds, A time of doom for the nations. "A sword will come upon Egypt, And anguish will be in Ethiopia; When the slain fall in Egypt, They take away her wealth, And her foundations are torn down.

    The idea here is that this will be a "time of doom"..and that clearly is talking about a lot longer than just a short24 hours.

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    Its the same for the use of the term "morning" too.

    Some in the YEC cult believe that the term "morning" always must mean a very short amount of time , and then use this false understanding to then support their other bad ideas about the term "day" being only talking about just 24 hours.

    But the truth is, the term "morning" can be talking about years and years and years of time!




    an example,
    Right after the 9/11 attacks I saw an ad on TV that was on the topic of how America was responding to the 9/11 attacks.

    They talked about it now being "morning in America", and that the dark night has ended.
    In this context you can see clearly that the term "morning"is clearly talking about a length of time that is far longer than just a single few brief hours before noon, and then everything goes back to the way it was

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    Its the same for the use of the term "morning" too.

    Some in the YEC cult believe that the term "morning" always must mean a very short amount of time , and then use this false understanding to then support their other bad ideas about the term "day" being only talking about just 24 hours.

    But the truth is, the term "morning" can be talking about years and years and years of time!




    an example,
    Right after the 9/11 attacks I saw an ad on TV that was on the topic of how America was responding to the 9/11 attacks.

    They talked about it now being "morning in America", and that the dark night has ended.
    In this context you can see clearly that the term "morning"is clearly talking about a length of time that is far longer than just a single few brief hours before noon, and then everything goes back to the way it was

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    Now as for the question, "How long with the Day Of The Lord be?.....

    http://www.gotquestions.org/day-of-the-Lord.html

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    So as we have seen, the word "day"in the bible can mean an unknown,or unlimited amount of time.

    Like when Jesus says " This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." he clearly did not mean that for only the next short 24 hours, and then game over.

    Its the same also for the term "Year" in the Bible....for it too can be talking about a vast amount of time...(see Luke 4:19 "19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.")

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    So as we have seen, the word "day"in the bible can mean an unknown,or unlimited amount of time.

    Like when Jesus says " This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." he clearly did not mean that for only the next short 24 hours, and then game over.

    Its the same also for the term "Year" in the Bible....for it too can be talking about a vast amount of time...(see Luke 4:19 "19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    So as we have seen, the word "day"in the bible can mean an unknown,or unlimited amount of time.

    Like when Jesus says " This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." he clearly did not mean that for only the next short 24 hours, and then game over.

    Its the same also for the term "Year" in the Bible....for it too can be talking about a vast amount of time...(see Luke 4:19 "19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.")
    You are missing the context, when Jesus said "this day" it didn't mean an amount of time it referred to when. "This day" in this context means "today".

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanmolstad View Post
    So as we have seen, the word "day"in the bible can mean an unknown,or unlimited amount of time.

    Like when Jesus says " This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." he clearly did not mean that for only the next short 24 hours, and then game over.

    Its the same also for the term "Year" in the Bible....for it too can be talking about a vast amount of time...(see Luke 4:19 "19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.")
    Again the context is important. The "acceptable year" is not an amount of time but a specific time. "The acceptable year of the Lord," is acceptable because it is the "year" when God’s will is brought to p*** through Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    Again the context is important. The "acceptable year" is not an amount of time.....
    we agree.....

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    In the bible,the term "hour" is not always talking about an amount of time.

    In the bible,the term "day " is not always talking about an amount of time.

    In the bible,the term "weeks" is not always talking about an amount of time.


    and as you said, In the bible,the term "year " is not always talking about an amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disciple View Post
    The question is since God is unchanging, the same yesterday, today and forever, will He need more of those “million year days”, the length of which evolutionists seem to believe original creation days were, to create the new heaven and new earth?


    Now,returning to this question...(a very good question to ask by the way)
    The answer is.....as far as I know....not shared in the Bible.

    But,we do have a small hint...

    Its found in the very set of scriptures that you listed.

    "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."


    The term "prepared" is important and is perhaps one of the few clues we have as to how long things in the future will take.
    The term "prepared"seems to tell us that there is some type of work involved...some type of preliminary process involved...

    In other words, we are talking about a creative action, a work of creation that god performs..

    So its not like a Jeannie crosses her arms and "blinks" the Holy City into existence...LOL

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